DEFROSTED FRIDGE FREEZER THEN VERY STRANGE THINGS HAPPENED?

[CHRISX]

Re: DEFROSTED FRIDGE FREEZER THEN VERY STRANGE THINGS HAPPEN

kwatt wrote:No idea, Bosch do not allow access to their technical information so I can’t see how it’s configured.

They might help you but, I doubt it, probably just offer you a policy and an engineer visit.

K.

“Hello Kwatt”,

I don`t know if You are / were a Domestic Refrigeration Engineer – but If You were and found a Fridge Freezer where the Freezer was Heating Up because it was `Stuck on Defrost` what would You try to `Unstick Defrost` ?

I am guessing that You would not just say to the Customer that there was nothing You could TRY – ?

Or would there be a `Safety Issue` – regarding that the Appliance might get Stuck in Defrost again and become Dangerous regarding Overheating of the Freezer compartment ?

I am just trying to at least get the Fridge compartment working IF possible until the Engineer visits.

Regards,

Chris

[kwatt]

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You can’t “unstick” it.

It’s a defrost timer, control module, defrost stat or freezer sensor issue. Whether the module can be reset, no clue as no tech on it.

K.

[CHRISX]

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kwatt wrote:You can’t “unstick” it.

It’s a defrost timer, control module, defrost stat or freezer sensor issue. Whether the module can be reset, no clue as no tech on it.

K.

“Hello again Kwatt”,

I knew that it would not be a `moving part` that I could `move` / `unstick` but I thought that You might suggest that repeatedly turning the Appliance ON / OFF MIGHT `Unstick` / Reset the Defrost process.

Without looking back in the various replies that I received previously I think that I remember a Member stating that when I was turning Off / On the Power to the Appliance to try and stop the Temperature display lights Flashing that this instigated the Auto Defrost process ?

I know that this will seem ridiculous because people lived without Fridges in previous generations – but We have already had Milk bought last Night go off and We will have to buy Food Daily to Cook and Eat that same Day as We cannot store fresh food without a Fridge – at least a Week of this and possibly much longer will teach Us to appreciate the importance / convenience of our important Household Appliances – of which the Fridge Freezer is undoubtedly THE most important ! [in Summer]

Thank You very much for your replies.

Regards,

Chris

[lee8]

Re: DEFROSTED FRIDGE FREEZER THEN VERY STRANGE THINGS HAPPEN

How is the cooker repair going?

[madangler1]

DEFROSTED FRIDGE FREEZER THEN VERY STRANGE THINGS HAPPENED?

I can’t believe Iv just spent 10 minutes reading this thread and I still don’t understand what’s going on.

Do you self a favour call an expert, the fault is very odd and needs needs eyes on the ground to see really what’s happening.

[CHRISX]

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lee8 wrote:How is the cooker repair going?

“Hello lee8”,

I have NOT posted anything on the Forum about a Cooker problem – You must have read something from another Member with CHRIS in his User Name ?

Chris

[CHRISX]

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madangler1 wrote:I can’t believe Iv just spent 10 minutes reading this thread and I still don’t understand what’s going on.

Do you self a favour call an expert, the fault is very odd and needs needs eyes on the ground to see really what’s happening.

“Hello madangler1”,

Thanks for reading through my descriptions of what happened to my Bosch Fridge Freezer after I carried out an 8 Day `Full Defrost`.

In one of my replies to Kwatt on Wednesday I wrote this:

I know that an Engineers visit is required and I have booked an Engineer – unfortunately for Me / Us the `earliest availability` is NEXT FRIDAY 22nd between 8am and 8pm ! !

The reason why I was trying to persevere with perhaps Resetting the `Stuck Auto Defrost` is because when I had problems previously after a 24 Hour Defrost – described at the Start of this thread – the Freezer producing HEAT / Stuck Auto Defrost was not one of them.

On the previous occasion I managed to get the Appliance working again after a few Hours – really just by hoping that what I described in my first few messages stopped happening.

That is: the Temperature Settings display lights would STOP going OFF & ON every 2 Minutes – leaving the Freezer Door Open would somehow enable the Appliance to operate / lower the Temperatures in the compartments – then Close the Freezer Door and the Appliance was `Working` – and stayed working until I carried out the Week long `Full Defrost`.

THE PROBLEMS AFTER THE FIRST / 24 HOUR DEFROST ARE EXPLAINED IN MORE DETAIL IN MY FIRST FEW MESSAGES ON THIS THREAD.

When the problems with my Bosch Fridge Freezer first started it was the Temperature Settings Display Lights started to Flash with a `Buzzing` sound in conjunction with the Off / On of the lights flashing.

Here is that thread:

fridge-freezer-forum/bosch-classixx-fridge-freezer-temperature-lights-flashing-t82860.html

I was able to stop this immediately sometimes by turning Off the Power to the Appliance – but on other occasions I had to leave the Power turned off for a couple of hours before the Display lights would stay On.

When I waited on one occasion to see if the lights would stop flashing I established that the Fridge was warming up when the lights were flashing for a long period – I assume the Freezer was also but I did not leave the situation long enough to be able to measure that.

When I posted that problem on the Forum I was advised to carry out a `Full Defrost` – which I did for 24 Hours [Kitchen at 30C / 86F] – but when I then had the problems that I posted in this thread I was advised that a 24 Hour `Full Defrost` was probably not long enough.

Because of that I carried out the 8 Day Defrost.

I had managed to get the Appliance working again after the problems following the 24 Hour Defrost and apart from a couple of times when the Temperature Settings Display Lights started Flashing again the Fridge Freezer had been working for a few Weeks before the second attempt `Full Defrost` [8 Day / 190 Hours]

I just hope that all of these `Malfunctions` will display themselves when the Engineer arrives.

I hope that We do not turn On the Fridge Freezer at His visit only to find that it Starts Up `Normally` !

Regards,

Chris

[Martin]

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CHRISX wrote:I just hope that all of these `Malfunctions` will display themselves when the Engineer arrives.

That’s the one defining word we, in the trade, have always held out for you CHRISX…hope. Oh how we hope the engineers visit in the 22nd will be THE major step toward closure of this problem….hopefully! 😀

[lee8]

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CHRISX wrote:

lee8 wrote:
How is the cooker repair going?

“Hello lee8”,

I have NOT posted anything on the Forum about a Cooker problem – You must have read something from another Member with CHRIS in his User Name ?

Chris
No l don’t believe I’m mistaken. Maybe some photographs would help, l suggest taking lots of different sections of the appliance.

[iadom]

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lee8 wrote:

No l don’t believe I’m mistaken.

Are but you are mistaken, the OP’s previous thread was about a Hotpoint washing machine. 😉

[CHRISX]

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lee8 wrote:

CHRISX wrote:
How is the cooker repair going?

“Hello lee8”,

I have NOT posted anything on the Forum about a Cooker problem – You must have read something from another Member with CHRIS in his User Name ?

Chris
No l don’t believe I’m mistaken. Maybe some photographs would help, l suggest taking lots of different sections of the appliance.

“Hello again lee8”,

You are mistaken – I have only posted threads / asked questions about my Washing Machine and my Fridge Freezer on this Forum.

To PROVE that I have attached a Screenshot from the `View Your Posts` search facility – this shows ALL of the Topics that I have been involved in on this Forum.

As for your suggestions about taking Photos – How would You take a Photo of Flashing lights OR Lights going OFF & ON – OR HEAT being produced in the Freezer compartment ?

Chris

[CHRISX]

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Martin wrote:

CHRISX wrote:
I just hope that all of these `Malfunctions` will display themselves when the Engineer arrives.

That’s the one defining word we, in the trade, have always held out for you CHRISX…hope. Oh how we hope the engineers visit in the 22nd will be THE major step toward closure of this problem….hopefully! 😀

“Hello Martin”,

I am REALLY looking forward to the Engineers visit.

Not just because We are finding it `inconvenient` to not be able to have ANY Food or Drink in the House that is affected by the Warm Temperature – which is nearly everything that We Eat.

But also so that I can Update this thread by writing about MY GUESS that the Engineer stated that the Fridge Freezer Control Module needed replacing – OR whatever other problem He may find.

I know from previous replies that no-one could have suggested that this is the problem – remote diagnosis NOT being possible and I fully understand this.

Unfortunately – as You will have read – the 8 Day `Full defrost` has revealed more serious problems than I previously had – in fact the Fridge Freezer would doubtless still be working if I had NOT done the Defrost.

Obviously I realise that there were some `underlying problems` but I have NOT had the situation previously with the occasional `Temperature Settings Lights Flashing` problem to call in an Engineer because it was so intermittent – the lights would not have been flashing when He arrived because I had to get the Fridge Freezer working again each time because of the Food in the Freezer.

Regards,

Chris

[lee8]

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I must be mistaken, that’s the problem with being a plonker, it makes it too easy.

As for the fridge, an appliance with less than a few parts is hardly going to confuse anybody with a basic understanding of the appliance, experience & a logical brain.

As for photos, you’d be surprised what anomalies us professionals can spot from what would appear to any one else.

[CHRISX]

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lee8 wrote:I must be mistaken, that’s the problem with being a plonker, it makes it too easy.

As for the fridge, an appliance with less than a few parts is hardly going to confuse anybody with a basic understanding of the appliance, experience & a logical brain.

As for photos, you’d be surprised what anomalies us professionals can spot from what would appear to any one else.

“Hello lee8”,

When I wrote on this thread that I was disappointed that my VERY Detailed descriptions of the malfunctions on my Fridge Freezer did NOT enable the Refrigeration Engineers on the Forum to be able to work out from the operating sequence of the Appliance components what MIGHT be happening I was quickly informed that there were MANY Parts within a Fridge Freezer and that it was impossible to `Remote Diagnose` anything from my descriptions – irrespective of how `Detailed` they might be.

Your comment here is similar to what I had previously thought when I posted my previous thread about my Fridge Freezer and this thread:

QUOTE: As for the fridge, an appliance with less than a few parts is hardly going to confuse anybody with a basic understanding of the appliance, experience & a logical brain.

I do NOT mean any offence by that – I had originally thought that my detailed descriptions would have enabled at least some `educated guesses` – BUT I now realise after replies from Members that this was NOT a realistic expectation.

SO lee8 – I am afraid that some of your Colleagues / everyone who has replied to Me on the Forum would NOT agree with your comment.

Regarding the Photos – a Photo of `Flashing Lights` or Lights going OFF & ON would obviously only show the Lights either ON or OFF and there is no way to Photograph the Heat within the Freezer compartment – being caused by the Auto Defrost being stuck On – Thanks again for that Info Kwatt.

Chris

[lee8]

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I’ve come across very few professional peeps here that agree with any of my comments. I come from a section of the industry that police’s engineers, so some comments l make have caused offence.

The worse mistake people make is to over complicate situations, not helped in clients homes who when asked what is the problem usually start explaining faults several yrs in the past and eventually finish 5 min later.

A refrigerator only requires a few components to function. It’s the interpretation of the clients comments and opinions added to a knowledge of components used to achieve the goal that is key.

You’d be surprised how many engineers lack that knowledge, for various reasons, success is usually due to either previous experience within the brand or a good technical brain. The latter being less likely thanks to UK education policy of previous political inept morons. I actively promote training and industrial regulation of our industry as there is no Whitegoods qualification, so anybody can claim to be an engineer.

Now l duck with anticipation of the usual slagging off l get when l mention this subject.

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