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Re: Bosch WAQ28460GB/01 Stinking!
If that’s the way the machine is being used, swapping it will give a temporary reprieve but, it will return on the new one as well.
But I cannot understand how on Earth using liquitabs is any different from anything else as, it’s the same basic components in them as it is for powder other than bleach.
Using liquids all the time, no bleaching action so bacteria will build up in the machine without a shadow of doubt and just build and build as there’s nothing to control it.
Skin problems due to the detergent then become the least of your problems as you end up washing in a soup of bacteria and old dirt, hardly what I’d say could be considered to be healthy or hygienic.
K.
Re: Masterpart
I’m not saying that everyone does Mark but, I’ve seen more than a few over the years that have and it’s been costing then a small fortune.
Just ’cause you’re smart enough not to fall into the “it’s easier” trap doesn’t mean any number of other people haven’t. 😉
K.
Re: Masterpart
Okay folks I probably won’t win popularity points for this but…
REALITY CHECK!!
If you go on just ordering from Connect primarily and perhaps Qualtex as they “have stuff” largely as many don’t bother checking beyond the two I imagine (well, I don’t, I know in a number of cases) or “you get “free” shipping” then hell mend you when you’ve got only one or two suppliers. That you often see people bitching about on here for prices and all that stuff.
So, wake up call here.
You NEED to support the smaller suppliers or they will disappear and you’ll be left with zero choice, just what you get shoved in front of you and, if the price is stupid for the parts well tough. But never mind, you got the (NOT) “free” shipping eh?
Sometimes I really feel like telling people to extract head from anal passage! 😉
I say that as I and others have said on here many, many times, even with the “free shipping” included other are often cheaper even if you have to pay carriage.
And, you can save an absolute bl00dy fortune on parts by shopping about. I’m talking a LOT of money, even small repairers can save tens if not hundreds of pounds a month.
Now, do you want to put that towards paying for someone else’s Ferrari or, do you want it in your pocket?
Your call.
We’ve talked about this at numerous conferences and, shown just what can be saved if you try a bit. Yes, sorry about that but, it does require a little effort on your part so as you can save your money and make more.
If you don’t well, who’s fault is that then?
In order to do so you need to be using the following:
Connect
Qualtex
AWS
Masterpart
HT Maddocks
Homespares
LF PartsI sit all day long with all of them open in tabs along with a few others we use.
If I gave it all to CDSL and/or Qualtex alone, I’d be thousands of pounds a month worse off and, if you’re doing that you want to rethink what you’re doing pretty damn fast IMO.
Hell even we’re cheaper than either at some of the “trade” prices with our retail price, including shipping!
If you’re too lazy, can’t be bothered or are harbouring a grudge from times past well, so be it. Just don’t whine about what you get spanked up for as, you are encouraging that the way I see it by not promoting competition.
If you need help with sourcing ask. Even better go to the conference in Feb and a bunch of us are there that will explain it to you and how to save a shedload of cash on parts.
Just don’t whinge about it all if you’re locked into using a couple of suppliers because it’s convenient.
AKA and IMO, people too lazy to shop about.
K.
Re: Fridge freezers
Yeah everyone can see it and will chip in if they’ve anything to add.
Ehm, Bosch, German!?
Nope.
A great many (if not most) Bosch products never see German soil, ever. The money may as it flows back to Germany but the products, nope.
If it says “Made In Germany” on the rating plate it was at least put together there, the components can come from anywhere as in, most of them as country to origin is legally only the last place a major process took place, which could be as glorious as screwing the doors on.
If it says “Made In EU” on it, it ain’t German built. Could be Spain, could be Poland, could be any EU state really.
Bottom line, just because the brand name alludes to and gives the impression of German, British or whatever else doesn’t mean to say it actually is what you believe it to be.
The only refrigeration I can tell you with (almost) 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} certainty is German built is Liebherr. Beyond that, all bets are off.
Hoover is owned by Candy.
You can get the lowdown on who owns who here:
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/abou … nformation
Loads of into in there.
Video on rebranding is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cltgwr99Uak
It’s all down to research in essence but to determine where a specific model came from, what it is and so forth can be a chore for some due to lack of information. For example, Bosch do not allow us access to any spares, technical or production info so we can’t tell you a whole lot about them other than what has been published.
K.
Re: Beko Fridge Freezer CDA648FS/1 Sensor replacement kit (p
You can replace the sensors in those machines, there is a way to do it and there’s a bulletin on it.
If the OP can email Dave on spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk with the order number I’m sure he can provide that bulletin that shows the process. It’s not step-by-step as such as it is intended for field service but it does show roughly what to do.
Those boards are hardly ever the problem IME.
K.
Re: Masterpart
I’d have to say HTM are pretty good but, with caveats.
Getting an OPN, forget it which makes finding and cross referencing stuff a total nightmare at times. For me and what I do, that can be a big issue and most likely stops HTM getting more business.
Getting any answers on some stuff, you may as well bark at the moon at times.
But we still do a lot with them as, if you can overcome the problems they are often cheaper, faster and can be extremely helpful when they have mind to be so.
If they could get some of the niggles I have sorted they’d likely see a 10-20{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} jump every month in turnover.
K.
Re: Fridge freezers
That is true.
Sadly though in cost conscious times and the consumer drive for lower and lower prices there is almost no chance of a twin compressor fridge freezer these days and, were you to find one it would not be cheap.
Even most large machines, even American style side by sides are all single compressor machines now.
The only way round it I guess is a totally separate fridge and freezer.
K.
Re: Fridge freezers
You appraisal is about right for the machines you’re looking at in terms of budget.
If you can stretch to the Liebherr, it’s an order of magnitude better.
If not, the other suggestions are okay but they are a compromise by comparison.
K.
Re: Fridge freezers
Hotpoint, Creda, Indesit is now under the control of Whirlpool and they do make their own refrigeration.
Essentials is an own label brand for Currys only and could be anything, some Chinese thing, Vestel… pretty much anything but it’ll be at the lower end of things.
Kenwood is a subset of Delonghi and both of Fisher & Paykel who are now owned by the Chinese Haier company. And whilst F&P did (still does I think) make some decent fridges the good ones would be well expensive, Liebherr money and upwards. The rest I would expect will be rebranded Haier products.
Samsung I don’t like intensely, horrid company to deal with. Extra,ely limited technical support, terrible aftersales by many accounts and spares not cheap or easy to come by so, probably best avoided.
Cheap end, probably Beko is about as good as any.
Something good, Liebherr.
Something in between the two, probably Electrolux Group stuff, AEG, Zanussi, Electrolux… they’re all the same thing more or less just rebadged.
K.
Re: 0800 Repair taking over Service Force work
Ted wrote:Guess they must have been the template of running professional service agencies way back when.
More like the defecto gold standard.
Sadly the like of which will be seen ever again most probably.
K.
Re: 2nd hand machines with splitable tubs & brushless motors
Martin… it’s a Daewoo in a dress at double the price!!
I think you’ve perhaps had too much of the BSH Kool Aid. 😉
K.
Re: 2nd hand machines with splitable tubs & brushless motors
It’s a problem Martin isn’t it, to say that they make everything when, truth be told, they do not.
BSH itself sells under multiple brands, Bosch, Siemens, Neff, Pitsos, Thermador, Gaggenau, Viva … the list goes on as it does for many and as with most they will and DO buy in product regionally and globally so far as I can see.
This is a big problem with out industry as nobody wants to talk about out, but I did…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cltgwr99Uak
K.
Re: 0800 Repair taking over Service Force work
Between them doing stuff and Respond Services I don’t even regard SF as a network or any of them independent any longer. Even when they try to make out differently.
K.
Re: 2nd hand machines with splitable tubs & brushless motors
Sorry Martin, you are wrong.
They still sell a rebadged Daewoo side by side or, did a week or two ago when I last checked. So sorry but, you are wrong.
And it’s Bosch Siemens Haustergate, with Bosch, Neff and Siemens all under the one roof and has been for ages, Siemens home appliances more or less a subset like Neff that are no more than rebadged Bosch machines in a fancy dress, rebranded in other words.
So even internally within the damn group they rebrand product all the time making your statement a bit of a farce don’t you think?
Added to which, had you watched the news you’d have seen that Siemens (who only had a 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} stake in the appliance division BTW) sold out a while back to… BOSCH!!
So your notion that Bosch is “part of the mighty Siemens group” is wholly and totally incorrect.
It’s all just rebranding on a monumental scale even within the group let alone what they buy in regardless of how you slice it.
K.
