[neilsukwg]

Re: Lucrative Dishwasher Money going west

Thank you all for your generosity in sharing your hard earned knowledge regarding dishwashers, Especially the reminder about spindly legs balanced onto bits of broken tiles etc. I remember the pain involved in taking one out to access a water valve and it was no fun whatsover taking that integrel dishwasher in and out.

I have already emailed Dixon training, have not had time to pick up Haynes manual today Done 0830 untill 18.15 without a dinner break and with the phone on call divert to my mobile 😯

Login now to connect for a tds disc.

Regards
Neil

[neilsukwg]

Re: Coin trapped in Hotpoint WF540

Wiil the coin come out on its own?
No,
it may fall into the sump hose which is a large rubber pipe clamped to the bottom of the outer plastic tub. Once in there it will be out of harms way. When I service these machines its not unusual to find a handful of coins, clips, bra wires, sweet wrappers etc. and the machine has been working ok.

Should you call an engineer.
Probably, ask around first, family, friends for a recomendation. I charge £35 for this kind of job as long as no parts are required, so rates vary but that s a ballpark figure for you.

If your boyfriend touches the machine make sure the machine is disconnected from the electricity, Plug Out!

[neilsukwg]

Re: Supply Point Earth Loop Impedance Testing

Found a useful leaflet that covers everything written here
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/eis35.pdf

What ken said about convinience,

My thinking, if it doesn’t fit in the toolbox (like the Martindale plug tester) engineers just won’t bother with it.

is very pragmatic but fortunately, and for less than £50 I can now have piece of kit the same size as my £10 plug in tester that will check the quality of the earth without tripping the rcb.
rocketman

Product codes 13485 Classic MARTINDALE Plug-In Socket Testers
and 15166 Non-trip Earth Loop Impedance Checker (about half way down the page)

http://www.bes.co.uk/products/192.asp

http://www.pat-training.co.uk/socket_testers.htm

I was going to order one right away but the shops open in a couple of hours and I want one now ❗

[neilsukwg]

Re: Lucrative Dishasher Money going west

Thanks for advice so far..
I must admit I was put off years ago by an engineer who gave me dire warnings about ‘ the tipping up of dishwashers’ and how they could be easily wrecked if tipped in the wrong direction, by water getting into varios chambers etc.
That combined with natural human lazyness and settling for the staus qou means I have just steered clear.

I will get hold of a couple of scrappers and recondition them, and use the haynes manual & forums if I get stuck.

What brand name are the chinese dishwashes sold under?

[neilsukwg]

Re: Supply Point Earth Loop Impedance Testing

Careful Squadman, Matrin will crush you in her ample bosom!

Back to Earth Loops etc.

Had a case in point today

Changed a set of lams on a Hpt wm52.
Checked the extension that the machine was plugged into with my simple £10 plug in socket tester, came up with No Earth! The extension was plugged into a single socket dangling on about a foot of Twin & Earth which was a spur from the socket above the worktop.
Checked the spur, still no earth. Checked the socket above the worktop feeding the spur, Earth OK.

Machine is now plugged into socket above worktop until electrician calls.

This guy has just paid in the last month for a new rccb consumer unit and had the whole house checked because he was paranoid about his old fused system.

Electrician spent hours in the loft, removed storage heaters etc. doing a thorough job but did’nt pull the washing machine out and discover that dodgy socket below the worktop.

Total time spent locating a potentially lethal fault? About 30 seconds

Sorry to digress from the topic of earth loop impedance testing and test meters but I bet every engineer who does these tests routinely would have 100s of similair stories to tell which just goes to show how important the topic is.

[neilsukwg]

Re: Supply Point Earth Loop Impedance Testing

Squadman

An Intresting prospect is it not Matrin?

You been watching to many carry on films? “Oooh Matrin” 😀

Alphatek Instaltest 61557 14-in-1
£449 from herehttp://www.test4less.co.uk/details.asp?menuselect=e&ProductID=123
Looks like a beast of a device. Customers would be expecting the worst when it comes to price when you start flashing that bit of kit..very impressive. That should justify at least another tenner per job!

[neilsukwg]

Re: Supply Point Earth Loop Impedance Testing

Not actually doing earth loop impedance test at the moment 😳

I have been reading the threads here on the importance of doing so.
I remember DASA making a big noise about it years ago, I think they were trying to get it made compulsory.

Is anyone using a single piece of kit that covers all the tests?
Continuity, Insulation, Earth Loop

My usual Safety checks include:
1. Ask customer if they have Circuit Breakers (if they don’t know ask them to show me fuse box)
2. Ask if they have tripped recently, ( the rccb, not the customer) if so was the fault diagnosed?
3. Martindale socket. Simple test for obvious earth fault or polarity.
4. Earth continuity from socket screws or nearby pipework back to appliance)
5. If appliance is near sink check water supply pipes and sinktop are earth bonded. If not make customer aware of danger.
6. Make sure appliance plug is wired to perfection.
7. Check and record appliance Insulation. I have been using 2M ohms as my safety cut off point.

[neilsukwg]

Re: Language Class. How to speak customerish

27. Do you want me to hold anything?
Means – 😳 :rolls: 😮

[neilsukwg]

Re: Tricity Bendix Tumble Dryer TM310W Water Tank Full Light

many thanks

Booked in for tommorow.
Regards
Neil

[neilsukwg]

Re: Language Class. How to speak customerish

15. Dont worry, he doesnt bite 😯
Means – You know what it means don’t you

16. Have you been doing this long?
means – Do you know what your doing

17. How much! (said in a squeaky voice)
means – You just fixed a washer for a scotsman with yorkshire connections

18. Oh its working, must have been one of those things?..
means – You got a lot of explaining to do if you want to get paid

Or ” can you come and ‘service’ my machine”.

Means, its making a horrible noise, leaking and ruining the clothes, but I’m sure a simple (cheap) service will cure it.

Jim. Classic!

[neilsukwg]

Re: Whats the most annoying thing customers do?

Many moons ago I left a customer alone with a Hoover A3190 washer. The lid was off, plug out etc.
When I got back from van she had helpfully cleaned the grease and rust of the top edge of the cabinet with some wire wool. The fuzzy engineer stuff that literaly falls to bits as you rub with it.

The crouzet style timer with its 70 plus bare wire connections was coated in the stuff.

After explaining the likely consequences and getting a disclaimer off her I brushed, blew and sucked away for a good 10 minutes. (Then I turned my attention to the washing machine)

Needless to say when I turned the machine on we had a lovely display, fixx, pop, crackle. Really good fun!

Since then I warn my customers not to go near the machine while I am away because the plug is still in and the machine is live and dangerous!

[neilsukwg]

Re: Finished White Goods Supplier

Just been reading threads on ise machines.
How can I find out about supplying them, Costs involved etc.

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