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ParticipantRe: AEG Washer Dryer L75480WD smells of gasoline
Possible/ a theory only. The plastic thermal conveyer between the door seal and aluminium heater chamber manifold. Possible that this plastic thermal conveyer is the cause of the problem. Next time something similar comes my way I`ll carry out a test to see what happens. Well known that the elements are oiled to stop them getting damp whist machine is in storage before sale but , as everyone else has pointed out, this burns off within a couple of drying cycles. Equally possible however the smell is due to a hot door seal which also occurred to me; perhaps we`ll see at a later date.
sce
ParticipantRe: Indesit WIL153 Simply Stopped Working !
s it work looking at the motor brushes, although I’d expect it to still drain if the motor brushes were worn out ?? Unless it’s a sequential thing ????
Hi. Yes have a look at the motor brushes. On a lot of Indesit machines if the brushes are worn out the machine will not do much or anything, though the door will lock from memory.
sce
ParticipantRe: ‘tE’ or TE error on LG WD-1253FHB
Yes what Martin says is correct……BUT before anyone goes rushing off spending their dosh on an element or thermistor I`ve just been to one of these LG`S this afternoon- not this model though -02/05/2013 and in the wiring loom everyone of the 5 wires to do with the element/thermistor were broken- rear fitted parts. Difficult to see because they are under tape but where the loom has been anchored by pulled ties to the rear of the chassis. Couldn`t believe it, 4 year old machine approx. Tip: repair/join wires by soldering them then side over heat shrink then finally tape and mark with perm marker pen area of repair for future ref. Reroute loom to allow it to move- the tanks on these machines via the the floppy suspension move a lot so do not be tempted to refit loom as per original as back to a problem X years time. Typical South Korean design- looms look nice but impractical!
sce
ParticipantRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
Oh! Savaged by a dead Cotswold lion. : 😉
sce
ParticipantRe: Old AEG Lavamat motor replacement saga
With a workshop lathe, I could reduce the pulley diameter and cut new grooves to suit the drive belt.
Nice one! Glad there`s someone out there who still uses a lathe. Mine`s roughly 70 years old but still just about accurate for what I use it for, mostly making spun discs in to cones for copper jewellery/ art projects and the odd motorcycle part when something falls off- e.g kick start cotter pin.sce
ParticipantRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
sce wrote:So who`s on who`s side on the environmental V business issue?
Try asking the manufacturers? They have decided welded tubs are the way forward, have a reasonable working life and are cheap to build and fully recyclable.
Correct! That`s good then…………or is it? I haven`t got too much of a problem with sealed tanks, I might however have a problem with sealed tanked machines costing 600 quid though. A 200- 300 quid machine with a sealed tank perhaps fair enough, that`s one reason why it is the price it is after all; cheaper to build. But at 600 for something that has to be thrown when the bearings go South after 3 years is pushing it somewhat to say the least….so why the premature failure rate so soon? Too big a drum, too fast a spin speed, deflections in the plastic tanks because of the first two points. I therefore agree with your reasoning on your high lighted points, though you really missed my point.sce wrote:One other point, why don`t the internal rubber hoses from the valves to the dispenser have a dc magnetic coil/ or just magnets fitted as standard to reverse the polarity of the calcium ions so it would reduce the effect of limescale ??
1) Costs money
True. But if your paying £1000 would`ve thought you`d get this protection as standard.
2) Doesn’t work
Yes it does….to varying degrees I grant you. You have a water softener on a dishwasher no matter what its price, so why not some sort of protection on a washing machine- the magnet coil system, no softener that used salt, on the Spanish marketed imported Merloni DW12 from the `90`s seemed to work ok in Spain which has very hard water.
3) Modern detergents work in all water hardness levels
Part true but with varying degrees of success.sce
ParticipantRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
Precisely Mr K watt. But to answer Martin, “where am I going with this?”
My point might be that sealed tanks are in fact a very good idea after all if your going to have plastic tanks there`s no mess, no injury just whip one tank out and whip a new one in. If your argument is that it writes the machine off on cost, well that`s a different argument, perhaps the trade/ industry should lower the part charges and labour charges to match, something that is of course an issue which no one wants to mention and the knock on affect of this is of course they are too expensive to repair at current repair cost rates which means they do get scrapped. Actually the last shower I worked for charged a lot for a bearing change and if you worked it out it was only £30.00 less than a brand new complete tank unit job to the customer. Drum bearing kits for the majority of washing machines cost between £8.00 up to £50.00 for something rather posh ( not meaning Miele) so the whole subject comes down to increased big fat profits rather than doing a nice job supplying a nice new tank for the customer having to take a reduced amount of big fat profit to get the job in the first place by doing a tank complete. So who`s on who`s side on the environmental V business issue? One other point, why don`t the internal rubber hoses from the valves to the dispenser have a dc magnetic coil/ or just magnets fitted as standard to reverse the polarity of the calcium ions so it would reduce the effect of limescale within the machine by creating at least some form of softened water- why, if everyone is concerned with environmental issues does this not occur with any current make, including ISE- please explain??sce
ParticipantRe: Bosch WAE24162GB not advancing not spinning
Clicking noise is usually the commutator- the coppery looking part the brushes run against. If you remove the motor have a good look at the segments, if one is raised there is your answer and the motor is duff- the o/load would also have gone iside the motor- a bit purely academic though. As my dear friend Iadom points out this may also have duffed up the PCB too- a spiraling world of hurt and typical of appliances!
sce
ParticipantRe: Ariston A1636
Or something is jamming the drum. Have a look at the break, does it look friction burnt? If so it is probably something between the drum and tank e.g a rolled up “sausaged” sock. If so check the distance between the drum lip and the door seal for an excessive gap + revolve the drum and check it does not go round warped- had one last month! If something jamming drum as suggested best to struggle and remove offending sock via the element, Power off please!!!! but check around door seal area first as refitting element a right `barsteward`to refit. If large door seal/drum gap you`ll need a new door seal.
sce
ParticipantRe: Ariston AWD 125 Margherita 2000 Spin Problem
Via your picture I`d say that this bolt looking thing is a motor stud that has fallen off the motor. it is not a transit bolt and it is not a drum pulley bolt. If it is a motor bolt that would account for the belt falling off. However if I was you just to be sure is to read off the belt size too, in mm and measure its actual physical length against the length printed on the belt- these belts sometimes stretch as previously commented upon. There should be a nut somewhere too!
sce
ParticipantRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
Ah found it.
Bacteria, Viruses Lurk in Washer
By ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN
Associated Press Writer
TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) _ More news from the guy who warned about dangerous germs lurking in your kitchen sponges and dishrags and the muck in your office coffee cup: Your washing machine may not be as safe as you think either.Environmental microbiologist Charles Gerba spends most of his time researching water quality. But he also enjoys hanging around in other people’s homes, mostly in their bathrooms and kitchens -professionally, of course- searching for environmental hazards.
And boy, has he found them in abundance.
For instance, Gerba, a microbiology professor in the University of Arizona’s soil, water and environmental sciences department, warned that bacteria such as E-coli and salmonella can be rampant in kitchen sinks, on counters and on cutting boards, often spread by sponges and dishrags contaminated by meat or poultry. Or as he puts it, “There are a hundred times more bacteria on a cutting board than a toilet seat, so lick a toilet seat rather than a cutting board.”Now, he’s found similar dangers in the home laundry. “It hadn’t been studied in the home very much,” Gerba says.Most laundry studies for the presence of pathogens- disease-causing microorganisms- have been done in hospitals, he says.
His most recent study, of 50 homes in Tucson and 50 others in the Tampa Bay, Fla., area, has found that coliform bacteria, an indicator of unsanitary conditions, including the presence of
diarrhea-causing E-coli, abound in many washing machines. Some linger even a load after you’ve washed your underwear, he says.
“They originate in feces, and we found that 60 percent of the washing machines had coliform bacteria. We just went in and swabbed your washing machine,” Gerba said. “And about 10 percent had E-coli in it.”
Next, Gerba and his researchers found that 40 percent of sterile cloths washed in non-bleach laundry contained fecal bacteria. “We found that when you did clothes with underwear in it, it
contaminated all the laundry. In fact, there was enough left over to contaminate the next wash load,” he said.
Bacteria such as salmonella, which causes food poisoning, and viruses including hepatitis A and those most commonly causing childhood diarrhea, rotavirus and adenovirus, also were targeted. While E-coli was killed in the permanent press drying cycle, some salmonella survived on clothes that registered 131 degrees Fahrenheit. So did hepatitis A, adenovirus and some rotavirus.
Is Gerba painting too foul a picture?
“We don’t think it’s the problem Mr. Gerba does,” said Linda
Eggerss, a spokeswoman for the Maytag Corp. of Newton, Iowa, which makes washers and dryers. “At this point, we might consider it a bit alarmist, because there are so many things so much more dangerous about bacteria around us. We think that washers and dryers are very, very safe and very, very clean, and if you’re using bleach, you can’t get much cleaner than that.”
In February, Procter & Gamble announced a reformulated version of Tide, its top-selling laundry soap, as a sanitizing detergent with bleach.
“We worked to meet the criteria of the EPA to say that it could sanitize laundry,” spokeswoman Molly Humbert said in Cincinnati. “We’ve heard that consumers are already concerned about bacteria in the laundry. We have data that shows that bacteria can survive
the current washing process.”
The key problem is how people launder their clothes today. Most use cold water, or at most, warm. In fact, industry experts suggest that only 5 percent of Americans still use hot water any more for their laundry.
And use of bleach is much less routine today than a generation ago.
A national study commissioned for the Oakland, Calif.-based Clorox Co., which makes bleach and financed Gerba’s laundry study,shows that only 15 percent of all washloads – though half of those with whites use bleach, spokeswoman Sandy Sullivan said.
What’s more, wash cycles now average about 12 minutes, and dryer cycles average only 28 minutes, Gerba said. That means that some harmful bacteria, and especially viruses, are able to survive the rigors of normal washing and drying. And under the proper conditions, they regrow.
Ingesting from 100 to 1,000 pathogenic bacteria can infect someone; it takes only one to 10 viruses to accomplish the same job, Gerba said.
Most of the contamination, and greatest risk, occurs when a person gets bacteria on his hands in transferring the wet laundry to the dryer, he said. If laundry facilities are next to the kitchen, there’s a good chance that after putting washed laundry in the dryer, the person will prepare food or bring his fingers to nose or mouth. “You contaminate yourself and get the illness from those organisms,” he said.
Gerba will present his findings in June at the American Society
for Microbiology’s annual meeting in Chicago.
He said his team usually approaches a major industry player to
finance home health hazard studies and accepts criticism for his
reliance upon such companies to provide grants. Realistically, he
added, the federal government can’t be expected to finance such
work.
His findings are published in peer-review journals – he’swritten more than 400 papers – and he’s highly regarded within the scientific community, and Gerba said it’s important to have studies repeated by others.
Clorox’s Sullivan said there’s an easy solution to the laundry issue. “At the end of your wash, run an empty cycle and put bleach in. You don’t even need hot water. It’s much like you disinfect your countertops,” she said. Or, as Gerba calls it, “kind of giving your machine a mouthwash at the end.”Our note:
We don’t agree with all opinions expressed in this article- especially the recommendation to use bleach, an environmental pollutant. However, we published this article because it is food for thought and the subject deserves additional study. Using gloves when transferring wet clothes to the dryer eliminates the greatest risk.sce
ParticipantRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
Re: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
Postby Martin » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:01 pm
Bleach based powders kill 99.99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of bacteria in a washing machine so what more do you need to know? Do a monthly 90degree service wash with a bleach based detergent or proprietary cleaning agent designed for the job and problem solved 99.99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the time!
But not forgetting that it foams like bugg*ry if you let it go through the whole cycle. Your right of course. But that is not what I was getting at, as you all know only too well.sce
ParticipantRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
How would you know that martin? You are but a simple appliance repair man with the brains of a gnat.
I didnt realise that us poor repair people were rated so low in society.
Far from it Dr Dill. Your doubt in yourself saddens me! I would not say you have a brain of a gnat at all judging by your jolly wit, well at least half the time.
Iadom, no the pleasure is surely all mine.sce
ParticipantRe: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
Hmm your right. Should`ve read: If white goods prices inflated everything else would`ve inflated meaning wages in normal types would`ve increased too. My thanks to the supreme brain for pointing this out. It takes someone of fantastic intellect such as Iadom to point this out. My thanks to him as always.
sce
ParticipantRe: Hoover hnwl7146-80
Doh! nil point. No not the selector but was the ribbon connection on the main power module- gone copper green corrosion-drat and double drat! And ruined the module connector too. Bugger! Called it a day by agreement.
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