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Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
philfish wrote:
WhirlpoolQueen wrote:
Now maybe I can persuade Mr WQ to buy me a built in Miele Coffee maker WQDONT DO IT! VERY VERY EXPENSIVE!!! And i hear that they had more then a few problems with them i don’t know if they sorted them out but they did have problems! Plus are they not all intergrated? So if they do go faulty you either have to get a new one or try to find something to fill the odd shaped hole. And some models only take certain types of capsules which you had to buy from them!! But it’s your decision its just something to think about 😉
Thanks for the advice. I was kind of half joking about the coffee maker, but as we are in the process of drawing up plans to re-do the kitchen, and as much as I hate the idea of “built in” things, we have agreed that we will look at some built in gadgetry stuff. – WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
doozeruk wrote:Its arrived…yipeeee 😀
As it was raining (I am self employed trying to work outside!) today I spent 3 hours re-plumbing all the copper piping so that the Miele had a more comfortable fit in our conservatory/utility….it does look very nice.
Can’t tell you how it performs just yet as my wife done her favourite trick of doing a load while I was out for a few hours tonight and then leaving it in the machine until the morining ready to hang out!!
I will report back in a couple of days…..should have done a few washes by then 😕
I wish you all the very best with it, I see there are one or two posts/threads where there are some restless Miele Naitives, but as they say one swallow doesn’t make a summer. Either way there is good and bad with all makes of things these days. – I adore my machine, & I dread to think of the alternative (which would have been a Beko had my Appliance Cover Plan Lot had their way)
Now maybe I can persuade Mr WQ to buy me a built in Miele Coffee maker now that he has finaly pulled the moths from his wallet and decided to re-do our kitchen. There again knowing him, his idea of a coffee maker is me with a giant jar of Nescafe……One lump of sugar or two?….Men! 😀
WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
Penguin45 wrote:The simple answer to your question is “Yes”. They are a solid, well made premium product.
However – ask yourself this: If it does go wrong, can I afford to have it repaired?
The price of Miele spares has long been a contentious issue among the repairers – they can at best be described as larcenous. In addition, the latest generation of machines can only be reset to original specification by a dedicated computer link held only by Miele service staff, so you are tied to company service for any and all problems.
When the machine is 7 or 8 years old, do you really want to pay those sort of charges?
Regards,
Penguin45.Which is why in my view, I think it is very wise to invest in an after care warranty of some sort which will cover you for such eventualities. – Looking at the bigger picture, if the machine was to last 8yrs and then be beyond economical repair, if it has been in regular use (more than 3 times a week) , then I think you can honestly say that you have had your monies worth during those 8yrs.
Gone are the days when you paid good money for a product and it would last a lifetime without needing any service attention at all. If you look at the amount of people on these forums that have paid in excess say of £250 for a mediocre brand such as Indesit, and then they are having to replace the product, through no fault of their own every 24 months, because the appliance is beyond economical repair, then over 8yrs, you are going to have to spend about £1,000 just buying the mediocre replacements, not to mention adding in extras such as cost of service calls when your mediocre is out of warranty. Now compared to the modest outlay of £550 for your basic Miele, the Miele looks the better financial option.
The problem is in these modern times, buying anything is a gamble, rather like playing the lottery, and it doesn’t matter what brand you buy, whether premium or non premium it is a gamble. Same with cars, I mean just look at Volvo, once a great car, now……..well let us not go there. I agree with Kwatt on this issue, that unfortunately as consumers, we seem to have sent the wrong message to the Whitegood Companies & that is Price before Quality. – Maybe the time has come for us to start & send a very different message.
In Finality, to the original poster who had the question, will the Miele last with three kids? – I can’t honestly say, but I hope that you enjoy your machine when it comes on Wednesday & that it does last you a lifetime, & maybe in 8 or 9yrs you may be kind enough to get in touch and say “It’s still working”. Maybe if I am still on this mortal coil, I could even be persuaded to buy you a pint or two in celebration.
WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
adamhornsby wrote:Yes I think I might copy and paste that text, sums it all up really. And that is true, as Im sure there would be some green eyed monsterness if we told them about how well the Germans do it.
Im damn sure that will make them sit up straight and pay attention….Well I hope at the very least you have all been entertained & are not offended by my little number. And now I am off to bye-bye land. :sleep:
Sleep Tight
WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
kwatt wrote:Hi WQ,
Antonio Merloni don’t make ISE products.
The machine made by Arcelik (yes, that is the company name) are built to a spec set by us.
The thing is any factory can build to a quality or, they can build to a price. Some of the old Indesits, before the accountants called the shots, were actually pretty damn good but then they got into the price war thing, like most of the manufacturers have. The only way you can compete on price is to start stripping stuff out and down-spec’ing the machines.
I doubt that these manufacturers really want to build poor machines but it would appear that’s what people want, or wanted, as well as the large retailers so, that’s what they built.
It’s quite funny when you see the look on people’s faces in the industry when we say that we’re not really that bothered about the price but that we are bothered about quality and longevity. I think they all just assume we’re mad.
K.
Thank you Kwatt for your reply Honey. – I did a double take when I read the name of the firm. No I don’t think you are mad for putting Quality above Quantity, just very sensible. (Unlike me)
Cheers
WQRe: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
adamhornsby wrote:Thanks for that, what should we tell them?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I think a large swig of Gin is needed here for Dutch Courage………… :drunk: I better be polite here, otherwise I am gonna have the moddy kicking my backside.
OK, Let’s get Sir Edward Elgar’s Land of Hope & Glory playing on the CD Please. (And now in the style of Winston Churchill puffing on the old cigar)
“We should tell them, that their products are pretty dismal, that how ever much they dare close down our UK factories, and sack all of our skilled workers, that we will fight them on the beaches. That whoever dares to rape & pillage the heritage of our most once mighty brands of Hotpoint,Creda & Jackson will face the backlash of our mighty UKWhitegoods Forum. That those brave Knights (Washing Machine Engineers) who serve the motherland well, will continue to spread the message across the land to Housewives galore, that a few more appliance pence, makes a lot more common sense. That Britain’s once most favourite & trusted brand of washing machine (Hotpoint) will never ever surrender & nor replace that Italian inferior bit of tin they call an Ariston, however much gloss they (Merloni) may put on it. They may steal our heritage, but they can not steal our victory!
(Back to normal mode)
Failing that chuck!, you could always tell them that the Germans do it much better than the Italians.
WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
adamhornsby wrote:And theres more where that came from, I found out where they all came from- Buyers & Sellers. How nice of them to show Miele’s quality, and no trace of the Merphoney group on the website.
http://www.buyersandsellersonline.co.uk … ashing.htm
Does anyone know Merphoney’s address?
Indesit Company SpA
CR/P IVA 00693740425
Viale Aristide Merloni, 47
60044 Fabriano – Ancona – Italy
tel.: +39 0732 6611 – fax: +39 0732 662501
http://www.indesitcompany.com/pages/en/ … act_us.jsp&
Antonio Merloni s.p.a. – Via V. Veneto, 116 – 60044 Fabriano (AN) – P.IVA 01148530429
http://www.antoniomerloni.it/WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
Martin wrote:
WQ is spot on there :tup:2 Merloni brothers, two different and seperate companies 😉
and two ghastly ruddy companies that wouldn’t know quality if it bit them on the backside.
Now my forgive my ignorance here guys, (and before anyone starts with I am simply :stir: it or anything like that, I AM NOT! I am genuinely interested from a Consumer Perspective) why have you asked the likes of Beko & Antonio Merloni to manufacture your ISE products, given some of the problems raised on the forum site with the manufacturers own made machines . – If we take AM and their horrible Servis Creations, what’s to say that your ISE machine is not one of theirs in disguise. Further do you have regular surprise inspections to their factories to ensure that they are adhering to your strict guidelines & criteria/quality for your machines & that they are not cutting corners with your brand name?
Simply Interested
WQRe: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
adamhornsby wrote:Look what I’ve found, a video of how Miele make their machines. Proves what we’ve said all along.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 4&hl=en-GB
Thanks for the link Adam, I found that to be quite interesting. Maybe someone should send that to the Merphoney group & give them a lecture on quality. :bang:
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
adamhornsby wrote:
Yes maybes we should rename them that, I always feel my blood boil when i hear Merloni, Ariston, Hotpoint, Creda, Servis and that word pronounced by the devil which is Indesit.I think Adam needs to cool down a bit.
By the way, is it the same Merloni tinpot company that owns ASKO and the one that also owns Ardo which look distinctively like Servis machines?
Dragging ASKO down like that. Unbelievable.I not 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} sure but my understanding of it is it’s not the same company as such, different branch of the family. Something to do with a family row many years ago & so parting of the waves as it were. – I am sure Martin will take great pleasure in correcting me, giving that I am not an “Expert” who is in the trade so to speak. – Do my many years of working my butt off for NEEB/Northern Electric Retail count for nothing?
WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
adamhornsby wrote:Yes you will, despite the spin on the Miele only being 1200,
I hate to be picky but I think mine is a 13OOrpm spin? – WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
doozeruk wrote:
As the indesit (I hate that word)Me too! , (Now on her Soap Box……or should that be Soap Powder Box) as a consumer, I hate anything connected with the Merl-Tinpot corporation. Not only do they asset strip the heritage of our once glorious English brands, they sack all our workers, shut the factories and then stick two fingers up to us as Brits by selling us shitty Italian made goods that will break down within a year.
Maybe we should rename them as a formal protest.
Merphoney Domestrifeiti Group
IndeshitCompanyI could go on, but my Gin Bottle is running low, so excuse me whilst I refill………..WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
adamhornsby wrote:Go for it, I’d say. WQ, what is your Prestige Plus like, we’re thinking of buying that one?
It’s very good my dear. Very quiet, very efficient, cotton cycles can sometimes take a little while which can be a pain (depending on program) but wash after wash comes out perfect every time. There is an economy & quick wash program, off the top of my head I think it has total of 18 or 19 progs
I believe mine is the bottom of the range machine, but I am very happy with it and would recommend it without question. I may also say that John Lewis’s were fantastic, not pushy and very helpful with regards to answering my questions and giving me brochures.
WQ
I can only speak as I find, I have found their (Miele) washing machine to be most excellent. Haven’t had cause to use their service people, apart from buying spares for the Cat & Dog Vac when we had it. They were always very pleasant on the phone and very speedy at delivering.
Shame on Miele for being so dismissive so quickly, but I suppose Miele’s view will be that your contract of buying the goods will be with the retailer and not them as the manufacturer. I sincerely hope your replacement machine will be to your satisfaction & that you are afforded the pleasure of many many years of trouble free washing that the brand aspires too. – WQ
Re: Will the Miele last with 3 kids?!
(Dusting off the Crystal Ball) – I foresee good things to those that buy Miele.
(Joking apart) I have just recently bought a Miele Prestige Plus from John Lewis. My hubby has heart & kidney failure & I am always washing every day. – My Whirlpool of a couple of years failed miserably and after receiving some very good advice from the chaps here on this site, (Now without massaging people’s ego’s here, Kwatt really is a Darling & worth his weight in gold.) Based on his advice, I bought the Miele instead of John Lewis own make AEG-Inspired Mongrel machine from John Lewis’s & I am rather glad I did.
My machine had a free by voucher redemption, warranty offer on it to extend the warranty on a free of charge basis to 5yrs? I think it was????. – I think that offer may still be valid, but do check, as different Miele’s seem to have different offers, some extend to 10yrs. Certainly I don’t regret buying the machine, it is whisper quiet, it does a bloody good job at washing soiled laundry & I really wouldn’t be without mine now. (despite always having a preference for Whirlpool products)
At the very least you will get 5yrs trouble free (hopefully) and I am given to understand that Miele test their machines to the limit and try to design them with at least a 20yr life span. – I suppose after the 5yrs for a modest fee you could always extend the warranty just to cover your back.
Go for it says I & the very best of luck.
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