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July 13, 2008 at 8:41 pm #256643
cockney steve
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I am actually mature for my age.
😆 😆 😆
ROFLMAO!… ah, well, At least you have a sense of humour!July 13, 2008 at 9:28 pm #256644iadom
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One question has puzzled me Adam, did you complete your course at college or did you drop out, seeing as you are now working for a firm of kitchen fitters?
Jim.
July 14, 2008 at 4:51 pm #256645adamhornsby
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Working for a kitchen design company, yes (miele kitchens of course, no cheap rubbish involved!), and im going back to do the other half of the course this September.
July 14, 2008 at 6:26 pm #256646hotpnt
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so any electrical, mechanical or electronic experience at all??
July 14, 2008 at 6:34 pm #256647iadom
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adamhornsby wrote:Working for a kitchen design company
So they don’t actually fit kitchens, they just design them, or are they really kitchen fitters who like 99.9{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of kitchen fitting firms do their own designs.
Reminds me of the time I worked on the farm as a youth, used to tell the girls I was an Agricultural technician. 😆
Jim.
July 14, 2008 at 6:40 pm #256648adamhornsby
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iadom wrote:
adamhornsby wrote:
Working for a kitchen design companySo they don’t actually fit kitchens, they just design them, or are they really kitchen fitters who like 99.9{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of kitchen fitting firms do their own designs.
Reminds me of the time I worked on the farm as a youth, used to tell the girls I was an Agricultural technician. 😆
Jim.
I work with my boss designing them, but she employs fittersJuly 14, 2008 at 7:35 pm #256649hotpnt
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hope they are good fitters if they are fitting expensive ranges, ie, electrical qualified to part P & 17th ed iee, corgi for the gas side etc etc
July 14, 2008 at 7:38 pm #256650admin
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Hi
I work with my boss designing them, but she employs fitters
Case rested..fitters are fitters not engineers,most dont use there head and think going forward,they just follow drawings that are thought out by someone sitting at a computer thinking of how good its going to look rather than the practical or realistic use of the appliances .
Yes I have seen bad kitchen fitters and good ones (good ones are quite often the householder).
Bryan
July 14, 2008 at 8:17 pm #256651adamhornsby
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r600a wrote:Hi
I work with my boss designing them, but she employs fitters
Case rested..fitters are fitters not engineers,most dont use there head and think going forward,they just follow drawings that are thought out by someone sitting at a computer thinking of how good its going to look rather than the practical or realistic use of the appliances .
Yes I have seen bad kitchen fitters and good ones (good ones are quite often the householder).
Bryan
You’ve obviously not met my boss or my father. Both do an excellent job.
I’l show my talents, prepare to be impressed. These are what I did for our extension at home, and the smaller one is what I did at work, both done on a cheap cad package which i have mastered…. just in case anyone is interested
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii23 … owview.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii23 … island.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii23 … ngarea.jpgJuly 14, 2008 at 8:22 pm #256652helo_75
Participantwow
so you can draw as well as talk bol**ks
your making yourself look a prize tos**r adam, shut up while the goings good
i refer people to adams ramblings on the non faulty miele washer
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ic&t=35529
this post about sums you up
July 14, 2008 at 8:26 pm #256653kwatt
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Adam, I know this is drifting way off topic but, just looking your kitchen design have you ever come across a thing known as the “work triangle” for kitchen design. Do you even know what it is?
I will tell you that most designers don’t, especially on new builds and it leads to a very awkward way of working when you actually use the kitchen. I appreciate it has to look nice and you’ve only got a finite amount of space but I place function way over form when it comes to kitchen design.
It also serves other purposes but I’m intrigued as it appears that your designs have more to do with appearance than function. It’s not me criticising, I’m trying to help you design better.
K.
July 14, 2008 at 8:30 pm #256654adamhornsby
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kwatt wrote:Adam, I know this is drifting way off topic but, just looking your kitchen design have you ever come across a thing known as the “work triangle” for kitchen design. Do you even know what it is?
I will tell you that most designers don’t, especially on new builds and it leads to a very awkward way of working when you actually use the kitchen. I appreciate it has to look nice and you’ve only got a finite amount of space but I place function way over form when it comes to kitchen design.
It also serves other purposes but I’m intrigued as it appears that your designs have more to do with appearance than function. It’s not me criticising, I’m trying to help you design better.
K.
Indeed i know of the triangle, but a triangle isnt necessarily a ‘equal’ triangle, but there is one there, more of a skewed triangle, it does work though as everything is one on side that relates to the triangle. thanks thoughJuly 14, 2008 at 8:34 pm #256655helo_75
Participantand now were retorting to private message insults……..
not somewhere you want to go adam
July 14, 2008 at 8:40 pm #256656kwatt
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adamhornsby wrote:Indeed i know of the triangle, but a triangle isnt necessarily a ‘equal’ triangle, but there is one there, more of a skewed triangle, it does work though as everything is one on side that relates to the triangle. thanks though
Indeed, so can I ask why you have a fridge next to an oven, which is asking for trouble, in what looks to be the case in both designs then? You will have issues with door seals there as well as hot air ingress, probably a substantial ice build up in a matter of months as well as a host of other issues over time. Hot next to cold… not a good plan at all.
Also, if you know this, you should know it goes storage>preparation>cooking but in both cases it appears to go storage>cooking>preparation meaning that you’re cutting across the triangle, it’s not skewed in my opinion, it’s way off kilter for cooking in.
Sorry, I have to ask as I cook and see a LOT of bad design which, as I say, looks nice, but isn’t exactly the most practical.
K.
July 14, 2008 at 11:13 pm #256657admin
Keymasterkwatt wrote:
No, no difference other than the spin speed and the 1600 is quieter as it has an induction (brushless) motor.K.
Then the 1600 models on sale now are quieter than my earlier comment may have suggested, although the 1400 one I have seems quiet enough.
Out of interest are there any other advantages over a motor with brushes that they are used in the more expensive models of machine?
I’m guessing they will last longer as there are no brushes to wear out although I have no idea how long a standard motor should last? Hopefully 20 years give or take if the Swedes are to be believed ❓ 😯
Well nearly 1 down and 19 to go and no call out yet 😆
Gary
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