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Re: Names
Jackal wrote:Sod green, when can we talk about ties and golf days like a proper TA? 😈 😈
Jackal
LOL, I just knew that one was coming. Ah well ! at least you didn’t need to take a day off work and travel hundred of miles to discuss colours and ties.
I think ties should be banned from any meeting of the WTA any way.Sean
Re: So Tempted Over WEEE
A case of shifting the goalposts after the game has started. If the buggers are allowed to get away with it that is.
Sean
Re: 12 Good People
You can bet your Ars-e you wouldn’t get away with anything with Martin on the case, he’s definately no yes man 😉
There are none so fanatical as converts !Sean
Re: 12 Good People
If its ok to nominate People, then I would like to suggest John Mac and Carl Robinson if they would accept a nomination because they have also already proved themselves excellent advisers on numerous occasions.
Sean
Re: UKW Subs Funding – the future?
Good god Carl! don’t you realise that that is almost £2 per week! 😯
That’s my pension plan gone for a burton…. 😆
Tell you what though, it would be the best cople of quid anyone in this trade ever spent for many a long year with the calibre of guys we could call upon to really work for the trade as a whole and not just themselves. 😉
Sean
Re: UKW Subs Funding – the future?
Sorry I forgot to mention the identity cards.
As you know we issue jobs from members of the public who contact the site for help and subsequently a service call to our members.
You are also aware that for service providers to be included in the free Repairs@ scheme that they are obliged to read sign and adhere to the service charter agreement.
It has been suggested many times on the site that Identity cards would be a good idea for customers to be aware that the person calling is actually an approved member of the Repairs@ scheme. So the customer is aware of just who is calling at her door.
Strictly speaking this is just a suggested requirement for UKW Repairs@ members only but I would see no reason that if that same member was also a member of say a TA, CORGI, FSB, that this information could also be included on the card along with skill sets if required.
HTH
Sean
Re: UKW Subs Funding – the future?
clivejameson wrote:So the two choices there as I see it are ;
1. Promote UKWhitegoods and all that it stands for in terms of standards of practice (The Charter), communication between members on all current issues facing the industry, and a general cohesiveness of members through open debate and collective decisions. To do this UKW itself needs to be promoted in such a way that the majority of guys in the trade become subs, let alone the majority of UKW members.
2. Create a standalone TA which is self funding to do what UKW is and has been doing so well but with the advantage of being listened to in a serious way by those who make the important decisions and ultimately the law. This also needs promoting in a big way so that the large majority of repairers become members.
Either way it will need a stick and carrot approach in order to achieve the required membership, the stick being the very real threat of outside regulation from those perhaps don’t fully grasp the situation at the ‘front end’, and the carrot being the communication from within giving a feeling of unity, and a direct financial reward from higher respect gained from the public and WP’sPersonally speaking FWIW I would go the second option, it’s a mountain to climb with either choice but ultimately that choice needs to be made or nothing will change for the good.
Clive, perhaps we have not made ourselves clear enough. Neither Ken or I see the formation of a TA as being a sub division of UKW Ltd.
We only see our contribution as facilitators in allowing a totally stand alone
independent and democratic TA to be formed.Believe me, as part of a team who have tried their level best to contact every repairer in the land to bring them things like :- the existence of UKW, detergent training, ISE and other ideas
I can assure you that it is an up hill task, even when you are giving stuff away for free. Just to illustrate this point, we trained over 1500 engineers throughout the UK from Inverness to Truro, Norwich to Holyhead.
Our conversion rate from repairer contacted to bum on seat at a training session was at best 20{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} not least because over 25{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of firms registered on yellow pages data base we were using no longer existed.
UKW is without doubt the best information channel to the UK independent service provider, and that didn’t happen by accident. We have always seen our primary role as that of information providers and have always taken onboard the ideas and suggestions of our members, trying to develop and facilitate those ideas with various degrees of success.
UKW Ltd has over the years stood the costs of attending various meetings with regard to things like exploring, Training schemes, Trust Mark, and various other government bodies. Costs that should be met by a TA and shared by its membership, not a single private company like UKW.
We have no wish to control the suggested TA merely allow and assist it to be formed and become one of its most ardent members and supporters.
Would we express an opinion as to how effective and efficiently it is operated? You bet your life, in that respect it would be treaded no differently than DASA has been.
I hope this explains where I am coming from at least.
Sean
Re: UKW Subs Funding – the future?
kwatt wrote:
Forcing people to do things is, IMO, a bad thing.
K.
Thats the whole point Ken, you never once had to force a sub to do any thing. They do things out of conviction.
The others will eventually follow like sheep If we can show a degree of sucess but only after the subs and admin have done all the work for them 😉Sean
Re: UKW Subs Funding – the future?
All the support and backing were are ever going have, either with regards developing UKW or a TA has always resided within the Subs forum.
These are the guy’s who have helped consistently within the forums sharing their expertise, hard earned knowledge and time as moderators. Who also take the time and trouble to turn up at meetings a suggest ideas that we can take forward and develop.
On many occasions Chris has explained the 10{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} formula of forming or running any type of mutual community or association.
I.e. 10{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} do all the organisation and support whilst the other 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} come along for the ride thinking that their commitment and responsibility to any such community or association is totally dispensed with by the payment of a subscription.
Having worked alongside many of you guys the subs on different tasks. I sometimes think that we agonise, debate, seek approval and try to convince others who neither contribute funds, assistance, opinion or even debate, let alone any of their precious time.
To my mind we have held the poll of the people who are likely to do anything to improve our trade so lets just get on with it. When we can demonstrate to others that by pulling together we can make a difference only then will others join us.
My reason for not wanting to sell UKW identity cards to anyone other than a full subscribing member is that to my mind no one other than a full subscribing member
demonstrates enough commitment.Always being one to seek a viable compromise, if your are going to sell them Ken then might I suggest a charge of £65 each with one years free subscription to UKW thrown in as a free gift .
You may think I’m joking but the guy’s in this forum already do just that along with hours and hours of free support to the site.
Seriously though I have had an extended telephone call with Ken on this subject today as a result I now withdraw my earlier concerns. Ken likes to achieve his results with honey rather than good honest vinegar.
Our methods may differ but our aims remain the same. Apparently I’m no ‘Marketing Man’Sean
Re: UKW Subs Funding – the future?
kwatt wrote:
Next bit, for non-subs but UKW members that have signed the Charter we offer them the card as well, but at £10 per card.
K.Sorry dont agree, Further more if this is going to be the case then rest assured I wont be ordering any !
Sean
Re: Monthly Insurance
Just got back from Cyprus. I’ll get a load of packs printed and sent off for you A.S.A.P 😉
Sean
Re: Monthly Insurance
With regards commission payments the only tax applicable is Insurance Premium Tax (IPT)
I.P.T. is the total responsibility of CSS for the purposes of this scheme.
So no there will be no necessity to add on any VAT.Obviousley if you carry out any work, then the labour rates are plus Vat
With regards checking that the policy is still ‘Live’ This is automatically done when you call CSS to report a service call request for which they will then issue you with a job/reference number. This number automatically validates the policy. HTH
Sean
Re: Monthly Insurance
Keep watching your post, I sent out the multi appliance insurance packs out to everyone that said they wanted them. They should all be arriving today or tomorrow. If you have any questions then post them up here in this forum within the subscribers because you are the only people who have them at this point.
The original idea from CSS, was for an individual pack for each customer but it was thought that guys would not want a stack of packs cluttering up their vans.
So what I have done is sent you out two packs. one for the agent with your individual agent number inside the front cover and a seperate customer pack with additional copies of application forms, customer letters, and Key facts documents inside.If you need more packs or refills then just let me know by pm here on the site and I will get them off to you.
Sean
Re: This Forum
Hi Dave,
Basically, Dasa has more or less imploded as far as I can see. I say this for several reasons.
1) The last meeting was cancelled at the last minuite due to not enough people able to attend to hold a legal meeting.
2) We have even had Scott Pollock turn up at Nursery St Kilmarnoch,
who then informs Ken that he is not going to stand for re-election to council. There are others on the council that are disilusioned and about to chuck it in Phil Kendal, Dave Pannel3) Mark Scoggins and Jason Hubby have already stood down from council and have not attended a meeting innearly a year though they remain members.
4) Dave Combes their current Director has already told Ken that he does not want to carry on doing it and had said that he thinks Ken is the man for the job.
5) If Dasa goes completely you would never get it back for at least a decade if at all IMHO
If Ken and yourselves saw any milage in it ,then support for him to become Director would be forth coming from the troops.
I do believe that a controling hand in each camp could only be benificial and save a lot opf duplicated effort and expense in things we are trying to do for the trade.
If it is ever to be done the the time is now
Sean
