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Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
Hi Ken,
True, I shouldn’t compare the two but when you have access to both, you cannot help but compare.
I personally do not care about water or energy usage (neither does my Mum), I suffer badly with my skin and need a washer to do what it should properly. I am pleased the ISE offers extra options as low water use for me is a no go area.
IMHO people are easily lead, I remember old machines which used a sensible amount of water and washed in a sensible amount of time got clothes far cleaner than the modern 2 hour jobs. We have had a modern Hotpoint, it took forever and didn’t wash or rinse properly and in general was a waste of £500.
The extra water use and rinses was a major selling point of the ISE against other machines, so I was pleased to see it.
JTM didn’t steer us anywhere. I ordered the machine on Mums behalf, Miele told us of JTM as they are our local commercial dealer. They called me as Miele told them to and I ordered a Miele Little Giant. Mum knew what she wanted, the Miele fit the bill. The list of what her machine must do filled a piece of A4 paper, the Miele has been programmed accordingly and she loves it. She knew nothing domestic would have coped like the 10 year old Siltal did, so we all decided commercial was best, at her rate it will be the last washing machine they ever buy. We didn’t want a JLA6 as it would not fit under the worktop and being a Schulthess it has a sealled tank, so a no go.So I should see my 8,000 before it starts to wear out then, excellent.
Regards,
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
Hi Ken,
Thank you for the concise reply. 😀
Firstly I would like to say the Miele Little Giant is set on maximum water use and the highest number of rinses and it uses less than the ISE. It rinses just as well because of the intermediate spins at every stage. With regard to wash time, it doesn’t have any, once temperature is reached it does a dilution rinse and drains and spins, then moves on to the rinses. This is what I was hoping the ISE would do, the Miele’s wash performance is superior to anything I have ever seen, it agitaes about the same as the ISE and washes in the same amount of water, as the ISE has High water level permanently selected. Admittedley the ISE washes to a standard not just similar too the of the Little Giant.
Regarding the Bosch, 17 though it was, I was just as water economical as any modern machine (if Higher water level isn’t selected), or there abouts, it washed in 2″ of water and the rinses (3) did not even come up to the door. There were only 4 rinses 1/3 up the door with HWL selected, which it was.
When Mum went to JTM she wanted a Miele not an ISE, even if they had sold them she would not have considered them. Everywhere we went Miele was always coming up the best out of commercial machines, we looked at, Ipso, Schulthess, Girbau and all JLA’s and Armstongs offerings. Every avenue persued lead to Miele, I have no reason to think JTM were not telling the truth when they say Miele is the best. For 20+ loads a week they admitted themselves it was most suitable, although Mum wouldn’t have had anything else anyway.
Domestic Miele do take 2 hours to wash, granted, but selecting “water plus” adds more water and shortens the whole cycle as the machine is now washing as a 20 year old would, Ie. properly. This is one feature I love about the ISE the High water level, clothes get washed in water and not washed in their own wettness. The ISE also has deep fill rinses another feature I love, my clothes are not irritating my skin so it must rinse properly.
Here is the concern though, will all this extra time take shorten the machines life or will I really see 8,000 cycles out of it ❓
Cheers Ken,
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
I was hoping somene from ISE would comment on the issues I raised.
Oliver.
Re: As promised, review of the ISEW1607W.
I will update this thread when I have used the machine more with different loads. 😉
Re: New washing machine.
I should hopefully be doing a review of the ISE10 tomorrow, it will be fair and balanced. I will be comparing it with my old machine and previous machines I have had too.
Oliver.
Re: Beko WME8227W making grinding noises intermittently
iadom wrote:I have always been a big supporter ( must be a relevant joke in there ) of womens lib, burn them all I say. 😆 8)
We all know what you want to support, Jim! :rotl:
Re: Beko WME8227W making grinding noises intermittently
iadom wrote:
Higher-water-level wrote:
Hi Quickwash,What about a net laundry bag, I insisted my Mum got one so she didn’t damage the Little Giant.
Oliver.
No use at all for bra wires. They will come through the holes in the bag.
We use an old pillow case secured with decent quality safety pins.
You should also give them a quick once over before you put them in the wash to check on the condition of the under wires, if the are starting to show through then throw them away.
The likes of Betterware etc do a special bag for bras, one of my customers has one and says it useless. 🙂
Evening Jim,
AFAIK she has stopped washing them in the machine now. If she damages a washer at that price then there really is a problem! :rolls:
Oliver.
Re: New washing machine.
You know Julia is a lovley lady, Martin………. 😆
I will do a full review when I have time, so watch this space!
Oliver.
Re: New washing machine.
One thing I would like to say, All my thanks to Chris Chantrell, what a lovley guy, I get on really well with him, he’s a bit like me. He was also surprised to see a Miele Little Giant in a domestic kitchen!
I cannot tell you how nice he is, so all my thanks to him and his good lady wife Julia! 😀
Oliver.
Re: New washing machine.
Got it up both flights of stairs with no hassle, took about 20 minutes, I took most of the weight and my Mum and Dad helped. No damage to the house, machine or people. I must be stronger than I thought i picked it up on my own, its not particullally heavy either (thankfully).
On a boil wash to clear it out at the moment.
Oliver.
Re: Beko WME8227W making grinding noises intermittently
Hi Quickwash,
What about a net laundry bag, I insisted my Mum got one so she didn’t damage the Little Giant.
Oliver.
Re: New washing machine.
iadom wrote:Here is a little ditty from years ago that you could sing whilst you toil Oliver.
Just be thankful we are not making Chris (P45) take it up, I said dump it in the hall we’ll take it from there, you would never know if he was tomato red under all that hair, there again hes not the only one with a beard, he should be thankful it ain’t ginger! 😳 😆
Re: New washing machine.
quickwash wrote:Hi iadom,
Ah, i love that song and the video is so cute 😀
I had forgotton about that song actually, i always enjoyed Bernard Cribbins (showing my age, 45 by the way, i know lady’s aren’t meant to say but i was always a bit of a tom boy at heart, going out with dad on the building sites 😉 ) some of the old stuff is so much better than this modern crap 😆
good luck to you oliver,
quickwash :plug:
Eeeebygum, I don’t do none of that modern music stuff.
Pink Floyd, The Moody Blues, Dire Straits, Barron Knights, Billy Joel, Brook Benton…………….could be here all day typing out the good stuff! :colour:
Oliver.
Re: New washing machine.
iadom wrote:Here is a little ditty from years ago that you could sing whilst you toil Oliver.
That brought back some memories Jim, I haven’t heard that in years!
I don’t think I can imagine singing that whilst moving the washer, possibly a “Cold in my nose” or “Couldn’t spell !!**!”by the Barron Knights, or my favorite “Awful Seance” (Floral Dance), put us on the map everybody has heard of the Brighouse and Rastrick brass band! 😀
Oliver. :martin:
PS. Has the Sebo come yet?
Re: New washing machine.
Don’t worry Quickwash, I am alot stronger than I look, when my Mums Miele came we had to put the old IAR Siltal in the shed, as it still works to an extent, its now for washing dust sheets and rags. But my Mum and Dad watched in amazement as I put my arms round the old IAR Siltal, picked it up and walked out with it, its only 65 KG though, the ISE is 73KG, but 3 of us should be able to shift it, we got the Bosch up there.
I’m just thankfull I haven’t bought a Miele Little Giant, it ways a massive 109KG, it took 2 of us to get it over the door step me and the guy who delivered it from JTM Services and he was built like a rugby player. The machine is super though and for the level of washing my Mum has its perfect. She is so sold on it when the dishwasher packs up that will be a Miele too.
Mysteriously when I move something heavy up the stairs the air always turns blue. 😯
Oliver.
