Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
Re: Does anyone use this loop tester info required
You still do the loop test on the house when an appliance is hard wired, but you can for example have several double socket outlets and many could pass and many could fail all within that kitchen, its happened many times to me that the socket I choose fails, but the one next to it passed.
My point being within the white goods industry there is no formal qualification for us, so we are not actually qualified to pass as safe an electrical installation, we are only deemed competent, unless you hold an approved electricians qualification, therefore the level of responsibility is far less. There is no legal requirement for us as Appliance engineers to test the loop as it would not be recognized as an approved test. :boops:
Its very hit and miss which socket you choose as you could still have an installation with a fault on it, but you’ve passed it, yet an electrician would test the whole installation.
Re: another player
You have to question a site when there info page offers no info.
Wouldn’t touch it.
Re: Same old story.
Last week I flew to mars had a blow job from Brad Pitt and trained my pigs to fly.
Just cos its written don’t make it right.
The net is full of peeps who in the real world could not repeat a piece of gossip accurately whether intentionally or there just drama queens. They now have a huge audience to feed there egos and sprout there bull888t.
Re: Does anyone use this loop tester info required
shaun67 wrote:Oh dear i was only asking if it were any good lol..Bought one any way and for your info LEE8 i only paid £51 for it so i am happy with that .And it does not cause any tripping and takes no time at all to check sockets and hard wired appliances ..
Guess I’ll carry on doing all my safety checks whether i need to or not.
I’ve not told anybody to stop doing any test’s.
My point being its not worth spending a lot of money on kit that is not required when cheaper is available.
You have to draw a line somewhere, you wouldn’t want to go to the Doctors for a flu jab and end up spending the week in hospital having MRI’s etc etc just in case you drop dead the GP gets sued.
Re: Does anyone use this loop tester info required
Which I why you get a plug in Martindale as pointed out in my post, hell you could all out and get the EZ150, only cost £45, you should still come in at less than £70 for both.
But go ahead spend money for no reason, your choice.
Don’t forget there is no requirement to carry out any Electrical safety test’s within a domestic home. :boops:
Even regulatory organisations are pretty powerless take the gas industry, there are many known non Gas Safe engineers for example doin work and not getting punished, its only when something goes wrong do people get punished and the punishment is the same if you kill someone no matter what you use/didn’t use to test a product.
I’d bet there is very little difference between a guy doing all the tests and one who does not, my evidence, the lack of dead or injured people currently and the many yrs working in other EU countries who do no Safety Testing including Gas appliances and the level of injuries that currently don’t justify making it a legal requirement. 😉
Re: What was the best machine ?
By best do you mean for the client or the Service dept.
I have no idea and neither does anybody here as to which Hotpoint or Hoover was best for the client unless they washed and calculated results for several tens of thousands of appliances.
As for the best for us in service, I’d say every Hotpoint and Hoover ever made as they regularly broke down. Which is why they where the choice for independents to Recon and resell with a nice profit thanks to cheap components.
This appears to be more a topic of which decade you lived in was better than the current one you live in. 😆
I have to say reliability results within a controlled lab to correct specs is very different to MRS Ignorance of today let loose.
I’d love to get a load of brand new appliances from each decade from the 70’s to the late 90’s and give them to current known peeps, I bet a wad of cash they wouldn’t perform any better than today’s appliances if not worse when comparing energy costs.
Re: Does anyone use this loop tester info required
shaun67 wrote:
I want a loop tester for hard wired appliances to make life a little easier i.e cookers etc ..Those who do have one ,what do you think of it ?? is it any good from your experience when loop testing cooker points using the separate test leads ?
Shaun
You can Earth Test any appliance with a multi meter from the case to any earth point, such as a near socket securing screw.
You don’t need to waste £99 on a meter that basically a £30 multimeter and a £10 plug in martindale fron B&Q will suffice.
The Nationals are starting to catch up with the current Myth and are looking to cheaper equipment for there staff.
Re: WASHING MACHINE PRICE 1973
Martin wrote:I’ve no idea what lee8 is on or talks about but clearly his view of the industry has got seriously warped in the time he’s been in it obviously!
Your kinda proving my point. :rotfl:
Read the 2nd post as a start point and work slowly towards the end, that may help you. :rolls:
Re: GOT MYSELF A SET OF COOL NEW TYRES
I dont now about his face, but his arm got cut pretty badly, looked like what ever he used on the tyre burst him.
Re: WASHING MACHINE PRICE 1973
I was editting my post when you replied.
I believe a lot of the issue is down to the culture change, life/attitude has changed.
I’ve just got rid of our Microwave, nothing wrong with it, works fine, cost me £25 from Tesco’s.
I changed it for the new Fagor Sputnik Microwave £180 from Amazon, I got it out of looks, goes great in the kitchen and is pretty good.
I showed my mother and she thinks we’re mad, getting rid of a perfectly good appliance just because I felt like it.
But that’s life in the 21st century.
Re: WASHING MACHINE PRICE 1973
Jesus listening to you lot its a surprise you all had jobs in this industry back then.
Or maybe the memory is a little rose tinted.
I started in the 80’s and I’m as busy today as I was then.
Personally the more sh83 that breaks the better, but then again a new model or brand does not send me into a cold sweat and as the stats say there far cheaper now.
The only difference I’ve notice between then and now is people seem to be far less intelligent today than back then, people seemed to understand that a pocket full of pennies is likely to cause hassle, overloading.
I doubt even a washer from 1973 would last long in a family home today.
I’ve been to an elderly lady this week, 4 yr old built in single oven, looks as if it was bought last week, sparkling and she bakes cakes weekly in it, been also to a range cooker in your typical middle class family,3 kids, both parents drive Audi’s both work, large detached house on a new estate and its less than a yr old, looks like a pile of sh88, you would not want to eat anything out of it, hinges etc etc full of cooking grease, looks like its 80 yrs old. Typical type of people who no matter how hard you try to arrange anything its hassle to them, the type you see in Gastro pubs with kids that cannot be controlled, all money and no manners.
Its not always the appliance, I find people seem to believe they have no responsibility in the way a product is treated anymore, maybe that is due to the low cost of the product, maybe if it cost £1500 they’d appreciate in the way people in the 70’s did. 😉
Re: cowboy
Trust me if the corporate world released the difference between their costs and the consumers there would be a lot more people shouting loud.
My old boss (small electrical business)in the 90’s boom time made a very nice lifestyle on the back of charging a large difference between the cost of Hotpoint/hoover bearings and brushes, we kids used to fit them, make the 20 seconds it took to fit them last 1/2 hr, cost to him around £1 a set of genuine carbons and charge £90 with 12 month warranty (replacement recon motor was only £20) so no issue, client paid for his experience, although he never had any beyond the fruit machine industry and us apprentices he taught.
Then there are National companies using the Prison Service for certain work, I’m sure clients would have a view knowing the work was carried out by non qualified people when they assume its by qualified professionals.
It can be a very fine line profit and crime.
Re: cowboy
True I probably wouldn’t, I’d rant and rave, make assumptions and knee jerk reactions and demand his bo8888cks on a plate.
Does not make me right though ?
And how many here charge repairs with parts for upwards of £80 when the parts cost below a £10.
Profit is crime, profit is crime, profit is crime.
I’m becoming Communist, it’ll be safer when the revolution starts. :boops:
Re: cowboy
Similar to the other thread concerning thermostat retail prices, technically you can charge any price for anything, hell I could charge a million for a seconds work, if someone wants to pay it, why refuse.
Crisis is hitting everybody.
I know company engineers who are all baffled that their completion rate 1st fix {e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} has dropped, which means there bonus is less every month, yet when they compare there call records from previous yrs there ordering less parts and completing more or less at the same level.
The country is getting worse, organizations are relying on lies and cheating to level there losses and basically everybody in the country at some point is being bent over and rear end invaded.
Maybe the guy is forced to act this way to feed his kids and keep the house, you never no.
Last week in Spain a union for workers took around 10 members to a supermarket, they loaded up trollies full of food items and basically walked straight out the door without paying, the police and security just watched them pass by.
Its not right, its not fair, but the days of a fair days pay for a fair days work along with job security is far far far gone.
People are becoming desperate.
