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Re: electrical safety testing ?
You got my vote on the Voltstick & Loop test mate, would’nt be without either tester. About the only thing regulating the appliance trade is going to do is take more of our money & put it into the governments pockets it’s not going to put the cowboys off, 1 thing this trade seriously needs though is some form of recognised training.
Re: Waste Carriers Licence
:eeek: Thanks Dales, I think :rolls: 😕 they really make it easy don’t they.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
lee8 wrote:
Martin wrote:
Maybe I should call for both Electricians and Appliance engineers be better qualified.Good plan, you make the call then let us know how you got on?
Good response from someone posting teaching material on here. :rotfl:
Recording results is a waste of time unless your qualified and regulated. It may help, who no’s, each case is different in court, but you’d have to have given copies to a client and hope they kept them, as a hand written record in a book/call sheet is not, in my opinion, sufficient proof you actually did the tests.
Same situation.So what in your “Esteemed opinion” is sufficient proof that the tests have been done ?. As for recording results being useless unless your qualified & regulated, where does being qualified / regulated stop you being a pratt & doing bad work or ensure you carry out correct testing ?. It does’nt I spent an awful lot of my working life going around after some highly qualified Electricians / Engineers & clearing up the mess they left behind & they’re shoddy work.
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Hi George: Thanks for that mate, if you find out anything more i’d be grateful if you could keep me up to speed.
AndyRe: Waste Carriers Licence
Hi George: What about buying / re-furbing raw appliances ? Do you need the T11 then ?
Re: Big white boxes keep on a comin’
don wrote:
suedehead1 wrote:
I get the same big white boxes i never use social sites
but I am using Internet explorer. the pages are very unresponsive as well.
Google Chrome is much quicker 😉Don
Thanks Don: Just installed Chrome & it is a lot quicker.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
madangler1 wrote:How many of you guys who do test keep a record of the results on the machine or in a book because if you don’t you may as well not test at all, remember YOUR public liability insurance will not pay out if they think you to have worked in an unsafe manner should something happen.
Its no difference to any insurance, they assume you take all necessary precautions to prevent accidents or injury and that you work in a safe manner, tests may not be law but it is reasonable to assume that you would perform them before you leave the machine, as it done by every manufactures own service force as well as BG they will see this as an industry standard practice.
The simple answer is you test and record the results either your self in a book or on a sticker/job sheet, it may no be law but cover your ass as its a “where there is blame there is a claim” world out there
I Log all safety test readings on the jobsheet, that way both you and the customer have a copy. Also put a pass / fail sticker on the appliance, if it’s a fail I get the customer to sign the sheet to say that i’ve informed them that the appliance is unsafe.Re: electrical safety testing ?
I don’t normally put my non contact tester anywhere near the front of the machine, just the side or top. If the appliance is properly Earthed then it should’nt light up. I find the MK power trace testers with the sensitivity pot are better than most.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Yep: that would have worked, Would have shown straight away that the caseing was live. Don’t know how many plumbers actually use them or even if he’d have thought of using it, if for example he was just leaning on the machine to get at something else. That’s why I said Earth continuity test, if whoever wired the plug had done 1 then they’d have known there was a problem and hopefully sorted it out before something like this could have happened. Unfortunately I doubt we’ll ever know who wired the plug, don’t think anyone is going to come forward & admit it.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Looking at that I don’t think he was the 1 who wired it up, he was working on the property & touched the machine. May be wrong but that’s the way I read it, most plumbers do basic Electrics anyway so they can wire up a pump etc. But the same point stands: A simple Earth continuity test would have shown there was a serious problem. We will probably get the rest of the facts as the case continues.
Re: what is the lowest excipable insulation
I made up a short lead for doing this with a good quality single extension socket & a short length of flex. Just join & solder the L/N wires at the end & solder the Earth wire for a good connection, when you want to do insulation tests just plug in & connect your Megger. Saves messing about trying to bridge the terminals together with a crock clip or probe.
Re: The 0800 Thread
lee8 wrote:Our recently banned Mod from Appliance Care Wales Ltd has gone tits up as well, maybe he’s gonna take out a franchise.
That explains why the website was closed down, Thanks I did wonder.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Martin wrote:From 0800’s web site…..
Sort of say’s it all really does’nt it ? 👿 A simple Earth continuity test could have saved this young guy’s life.
Re: electrical safety testing ?
Lee, Just wondering: If you did’nt have to as part of your contract, would you still carry a Megger / Loop tester & carry out testing ? Or do you just do it because you have to ?
You keep saying that your not telling people not to safety test, so why keep bitching at those of us that choose to do things properly as we see them ?. We know we don’t have to do the tests but to us it’s the right thing to do.
