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Re: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
Still I like to say – if you can’t beat them, may as well join them!
Broken chinese made appliances keeps us active. Otherwise if there are appliances that’s rarely breaks then we are truly well doomed!
My biggest gripe is that there is a lack of support network on how to deal with chinese products and preventing it from being thrown away, it kind of defies logic that the machines are so cheap that repairing makes it too expensive, surely if they manage to turn out cheap machines then they should be able to turn out cheap parts.
Sadly a lot of it are derived from whirlpool and bosch and the parts are just simply too costly. It kind of like pimping up a Lada!
Bit like the old joke on how to double the value of a skoda – fill it up with petrol!
Re: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
Martin wrote:
candyking wrote:
Reliably informed the factory gate price of a chineese dishwasher is around the £25 mark .That’ll be about 259RMB then? Still seems a bit pricey or have they got dodgy dealers at the factory gates in Jaing? 😕
Who’s their reliable source? The Sun?
Once it was £40 now it’s £25. I have not known prices to drop that much. Someone out there are artificially suppressing the prices in order to dominate the world then increase it once domination completes.
Re: Zanussi Dishwasher ZDT6252
I just had this dreaded phone call saying that the dishwasher is not working after I fixed it yesterday.
It did work when I left, clearly when they started to use it and it stopped halfway with 5th light flashing – drain time out. First job tomorrow – not summat I would have liked to start the day off!
I searched on this forum and could not find anything of use, it implies that this machine does not have a drain pump rather using circulation pump and redirected water to drain using a system of valves. (I looked on spare parts websites) It was full of crud on the last visit and very heavily scaled up but I thought I removed the bulk of it. In hindsight I should have put in degreaser but there’s so much you can persuade the client to take the products.
The impeller was sticky yesterday but I freed it. So I am wondering if new impeller is needed or something more drastic?
Does it involve taking the machine out or is it summat I can do inside the sump?
Can anyone advise me on how to reset the dishwasher other than turn power off? Also how to program the d/w to drain?
Thanks – Matt
Re: The shelf above the washing machine…
I often wondered why their cleaning cupboard are full of cleaning stuff and yet they are concerned about the dirt behind the washing machine and dishwasher.
The sight of dirty top is enough for a housewife to arm herself with marigolds and antibacterial spray, often I find myself in a cocktail of hazy spray mist which is enough to knock a horse down!
Never mind about the dirty top, what about the filthy soap drawers and slimy door seal?
Re: price of diesel
The trouble with the price of Diesel is that it’s too high compared with the rest of mainland Europe.
Ireland diesel worked out about £1.20 a litre, a whole tank full of the Irish stuff lasted me three weeks! Good quality diesel from Amber unlike the supermarket’s own which tend to last me for 1 and half week.
I wonder if there are quality issues in our British diesel, the mainland European diesel appears to be better quality than here. I used french diesel few years back and I got more out of it, this was off from a well known supermarket “carrefour”.
Me thinks that petrol companies are watering down the fuel and charge us through the nose for it.
I don’t know about petrol but it does not matter what kind of petrol you put in petrol car, you still get the same result whereas in diesel you really notice the difference in quality of the fuel and how much black smoke comes out of the exhaust.
Re: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
funkyboogy wrote:yip dito dat
i had chicken with black bean sauce last night ,
i feel very close to my Chinese products .
LOL! I had homemade chow mein last night as well.
Re: Zanussi Dishwasher ZDT6252
turned out that it was blocked sump. cleared out the crud and plastics. Supplied descaler and salt to client as it was heavily scaled.
client thought 3in1 tablet was enough, clearly it was not enough.
Re: Zanussi Dishwasher ZDT6252
Any chance I can have a fault code? I have this dishwasher with two lights flashing – rinse&hold and intensive.
Carried out basic electrical checks – all passed. Not attmpted to check heater as it’s built in appliance.
Re: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
Remember in the 70’s the Japanese cars were awful? Then came the 80’s and 90’s – their cars were among the best in the world.
Same thing could be happening to Chinese made products, once they have got to grips with quality, the prices will go up and probably give the likes of Bosch the run for their money. I think some manufactures are already doing that by getting their appliances made in countries where the overheads were lower and this reflected on the end price of the product while maintaining the brands.
Who knows that Haier would come trumps in few years time? The moral of the story is that keep your friends close but your enemies even closer! Get to know the chinese made products and use them to your advantage.
Re: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
Dan76 wrote:So here’s my spin on this subject.
I’ve yet to look at any Chinese product and thought to myself, “what a great bit of well engineered kit”
In my opinion all Chinese domestic appliances are pony.Sometime I wonder if you have thought about what you typed before sending. Not wanting to criticise you, some chinese made appliances can be terrible but the issue here I found was due to the lack of information on how to service it and spare parts availability, even with the spare parts being available it would be more than what the consumer paid for then it becomes BER even the machine is 3 years old or less!
In terms of quality, my experiences are that I don’t generally bother visit them as the cost of call out is the nearly more than half of the machine’s worth if it requires parts other than drain blockage. I think they are generally ok-ish built – reminds me a lot of whirlpool build quality.
Dan76 wrote:So here’s my spin on this subject. Also any washing machine that doesn’t inform the user that the load inside is out of balance or evenly distributed to allow it to spin should be on the list of badly designed machines
I have the same problem with my washing machine although logic says I must load the machine well with correct items of clothing and allowing room for “scrubbing”. But sometimes it’s not enough and you get a wild machine. I think the problem is down to the large size drum thus heavier load causing the spin to be out of control. There are some machines out there that tells you that the machine is over loaded – they do simply refuse to wash! 😕
Re: Trade waste – field service engineer
I realised that I have not explained myself well when I asked about registering with the local authority.
I meant for trade waste in general and the waste agreement in general like is it a legal requirement to notify council on who’s waste disposal firm?
what can be thrown away in the general trade waste and do I require a trade bin?
What are the cost involved roughly?
My background was in catering and food retailing so the waste agreement is different than disposing old parts.
Re: Trade waste – field service engineer
Allsorts wrote:
There is no value to the boards at all (except for the parts that are on the boards) and (since we do not charge for their recycling) we get loads sent to us through the post for recycling from people and companies who don’t want to have to pay to dispose of them. I have never before heard of them being scrapped for money… computer boards yes, because they contain gold, but not modules.
GeorgeNot wanting to poke my nose, but if loads of people send you boards as they do not want to pay, how do you make money from it?
Anyway, can you PM me your address that I can send out the boards to you for your disposal in exchange for a certificate?
Re: Trade waste – field service engineer
Thanks guys,
TBH – I had this WF000G which I claimed it back from a customer as it had a brand new tub in it but the motor was busted. It got to the point it BER. I had it in the garden covered up, until recently another WF busted drum, I used the drum from the garden for this other WF machine, it worked a treat.
I removed the boards thinking I would get few quids which I found out later that I need at least 20. The machine casing went to the scrap man who goes around shouting “any old iron!”.
Do I need to register with the local authority on my waste or do I need to make formal arrangement in order to get duty of care certificate?
Re: Domestic Appliance Testing
Martin wrote:
twicknix wrote:
I’m sure that they must have explained the correct procedure to PAT testing a washing machine during your course. But, in case others are scratching their heads in wonder at reading this, the subject is covered in a download available HERE 😀
Thanks Martin,
The course I attended is PAT testing course, they did explain the procedure with earth bonding, insulation test and all that. But they keep referring to IT – I guess most of the candidates were in the IT business, so I kinda got muddled up. I rather be safe than sorry that is why I am asking you guys what the best way of doing it,
