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twicknix
ParticipantRe: Stock availability from certain supplier.
Chissy wrote:Trade Electricals Direct have a new branch within the Apollo2000 store in Birmingham. Big stocks of the popular white goods. Huge stocks as a massive distribution warehouse next door
Team Leader is Matt Jones, he may well be able to assist…
Matt Jones
Trade Electricals Direct (within Apollo2000 store)
Middlemore Road
Birmingham0191 507 9010
mjones@get-ted.co.ukThe number given is not a Birmingham number, so where is he based if he’s the team leader for Birmingham branch?
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Stock availability from certain supplier.
thanks guys.
I have contacted Swift – not that particularly helpful, hard to pin down a person, keep getting answering machines from all three numbers I was given.
Will try Matt Jones.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Domestic Appliance Testing
Just want to get it off my chest….I attended the PAT testing course to get some qualification and passed. During the course it talked about how a lot of equipments are sensitive to high voltage testing particularly in IT.
I do know that all appliances have been flash tested at 1000v at the factory, Unless I am wrong…
Can anyone confirm that it is perfectly safe to do 500v insulation test on appliances without blowing out computer boards as well nearly all appliances. I attended a machine recently that had it computer board blew out due to power surge. Hence me asking this question.
Would I be better off carrying out 250v insulation test on the appliance if in doubt?
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
lee8 wrote:The worse place to research this is with repairers, after all we tend only to visit faulty appliances, therefore kinda one sided.
How many appliances are there ?
)He does have a point, also it is pretty much area dependent as in my area of coverage which is an affluent area who are likely to own Bosch rather than Hotpoint, so I get to see more Bosch than Hotpoint. Once their Bosch appliance is BER, it get taken to the local tip because of their financial means, the urgency and the know how to transport appliance to the local tip and being internet savvy to buy a new one. They are the ones get to shout the loudest.
If I am in a poorer area, I would probably see a lot of Indesit, Beko and lower end of Hotpoint or even much older reconditioned Hotpoint which was a testimony itself that older Hotpoint will be around longer that it’s newer replacement. Maybe it was down to affordable parts being available and the ease of repair. It kind of answered Matt’s question on reliability – perhaps look at refurbishment, as often refurbished machines wear better than factory produced. Hence older Hotpoint and Bosch machines were better refurbished.
People from that area don’t shout the loudest as they do not have a choice and can see no point in moaning.twicknix
ParticipantRe: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
funkyboogy wrote:
if you tried to sell a washing machine with only say 3 progs – you would be slaughtered ..
…. ally
Like “The Moon”?
😯twicknix
ParticipantRe: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
Martin made me laugh out loud!
twicknix
ParticipantRe: beko drum paddles / welded tubs ?
I appreciate your comments Martin,
Sometimes I wonder if it is worth continuing the white goods repair as a lot of people tend to err on the side of buying a new machine. Frustrating!
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Domestic appliances – reliability and design
I don’t know what the other says about Bosch, I have come across a fair amount of bosch washing machines failing within 3 years of purchase from the shop. I could not be more specific but I have seen a fair few. Usually down to faulty computer board, dodgy motor as well dodgy drain pump. The early Bosch washers from the 90’s were well built and lasted a long time, customers have trusted the brand and when it BER (Beyond Economical Repair), they go out and buy a new bosch which I call it second generation.
The second generation somehow appears to be cheaper than the first one but comes with bigger drum, and the usual Bosch refinements. 3 years later (18 months is not unheard of), faults start developing around the computer board or motor or drain pump. The price of the parts puts people off given what they paid for the machine few years back. This second generation machine are now BER after 3 years. Like I said I have seen a fair few, but be warned there are few bosch variants lurking about under different brand name.
Another change of subject, fitted integrated dishwasher supplied “free” from the kitchen fitter ought to be held accountable. They tend to supply substandard appliance after a customer spent more than £1,000 for a new kitchen, I think it’s reasonable to expect a decent machine supplied. But that;s only half of the story!
twicknix
ParticipantRe: beko drum paddles / welded tubs ?
Martin wrote:
twicknix wrote:
All that for insurance work at a capped price. Never again!!One day very soon all machines will have welded tubs. Too costly for insurance companies to contemplate replacing so angle grinders and lump hammers will no longer be a necessity…never fear.
I’ll reserve my judgment on that… Just to make it clear, I do not work for the insurance company just that a customer of mine was using the insurance and employed me privately that she will be reimbursed for the work I did. I thought that insurance prefered their own people rather than the local guy.
Angle grinder and lump hammer are the way forward… might get a mig welding as well! 8)
twicknix
ParticipantRe: beko drum paddles / welded tubs ?
I too found out the hard way today with Indesit IS60V. I usually come across with bolted shaft but this was the first.
So looks like I am having to keep an angle grinder in the van along with grinding disc as well a drill with a good set of drill bits. May as well have a mobile forge at this rate!! Not a good way of doing it from health and safety views.
to make matters worse, the client failed to mention the burning smell after I noticed the burnt fluff being stuck on to the elements, so the heater had to be replaced not by the next guy next week from the insurance, also once I have put it all back together the sodding motor failed so how was I supposed to know that as the belt snapped shortly after the drum bearings failed – I assumed that the motor was fine. And I do not work for the insurance as I am an independent.
Am I supposed to test every components before going down the route of replacing drum shaft? All that for the client’s insurance work at a capped price. Never again!! I learnt my lesson! Very pi££ed off. But I didn’t know that I was doing all this for the insurance until the client informed me that she is making a claim later today. If she had told me this earlier, I would have sold her a new dryer at a fraction of the price of repairing! If I had the foresight, I would have said BER and sell her a new dryer just to save the hassle.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Hoover HNC175-80 Condensing Dryer
Cheers. So basically I can give her a decent overhaul on the dryer with new motor, pulleys, drum shaft bearing, belt and heater rather than her going out to buy a new dryer. Masterpart sells the motor in a form of kit including belt and jockeys and spring. It looks a decent buy.
Is the condensing unit is gravity fed rather than pump fed (I have not explored this section but it kind of looks like a gravity fed)?
twicknix
ParticipantRe: LG washer
Finally I have fitted the drum bearing and seal to the washer/dryer.
Pretty straight forward but very labour intensive. I liked the colour coded cables. The plugs can be a bit fiddly especially the one under the direct drive motor. The bearing support bracket are very soft cos it’s made of Aluminum, looks rather fragile.
The only thing that really annoyed me was that the door seal clamp is so tight to put on, the one you put onto the drum not the door. Took me a good hour to put it on after I managed to get a second person to help. A right bugger that was!
As someone said on the previous post that the cheap bearings can feel rough, that’s true in my case but the client was so happy that she’s willing to overlook the roughness.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: wiring diagrams please for Siemens D/W – SE25A090GB/12
Thanks Martin.
Sadly my printer ran out of ink! I have ordered some more ink…
Matt
twicknix
ParticipantRe: wiring diagrams please for Siemens D/W – SE25A090GB/12
cheers Martin.
so I wrote it correct that the two wires piggy back?
What HTH means?
Will try remember to take photos. Sometime it is obvious to take photos but for some reason I did not do it.
It’s a lot of work taking the dishwasher apart. I wonder what the other engineers make of this. Is it worth doing it or walk away?
twicknix
ParticipantRe: LG washer
I did look at the LG bearings and seals also looked at pattern parts kit from Electrupart. The machine looks like it’s a direct drive. The client wants the cheapest option (£60 different). I did offer both choices but at the end of the day the client will pay what they want to pay.
I have not found that the bearings from pattern parts any worse then the genuine one as I have not experienced noisy bearings from pattern parts and they are often better but that was mainly for hotpoint/creda. However I will bear this in mind. It would be dis-heartening to find it’s noisy after going into a lot of trouble to replace the bearings!
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