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“Be careful not to chase the repair mounting as you are well aware the cost of parts are not cheap”. Amazing! Someone always comes round and distacts me when in full writing flow. Meant to say the obvious, beware of chasing this as the costs mount up, the motor is listed at £180.64 part 00145800, surprisingly a new preprogrammed power module is a mere £58.79 part number 12006156 which makes not a lot of sense as most of the older machines are over 200 quid. Check out Bosch`s website.
well if the commutator segments are visually ok and I would be surprised if they were – scouring by the copper rope of the brushes as they finally wear down to almost zero – what has probably failed is the internal winding o/load / fuse. Do not bypass this as you risk a disaster as it went open circuit due to a nuked armature / commutator. The genuine brushes should be 00616505. Common pattern brushes are car121oq or 12bs08c. Of course it could still be the main pcb, doubt it would be the little pcb on the motor. Be careful not to chase the repair mounting as you are well aware the cost of parts are not cheap.
2003 I take it is the model year not the model. From what I just found out a great maiy were made in America by Lincat then taken over by Rangemaster in 2009 then they really amounted to badge type engineering as revamped Rangemaster stuff. Well at 2000 quid repair I am not supprised, niche trendy appliance in its day and owners suffer for that very reason. Have found a company that specializes in Lincat produced cookers but it ain`t cheap: J.E.S.LTD a service package fixed price for 5 hours @£500+VAT then it is £25 for every 15mins after that. Parts are extra and have a miserable 3 month warranty and any return visit is charged at £25 per 15mins too. Gulp!! Got you caught by the crushed testicles on this one. I`ve never worked on one and never would but in 2007 I went to see a humble Hotpoint washing machine and those folks ( of Henley on Thames “set” fame ) have one from your era and they told me it had to have a central burner and that part cost £380……twice!…..and a new control knob was £80 so I can see where you are coming from. I also know that a main oven element can be over £300.
Best of luck with this one I think you will need it.Yep, motor bearing failure ( and or motor brush failure – very common ) on Bosch is not unknown. Prior to this, so before failure, the motor spins and sounds like sawing wood in a saw mill is a typical sound of motor bearing failure.
But if the tracks have blown on the pcboard a component part on that pcb might be damaged too and you still have the motor problem i.e. a new motor ( armature failure / blown stator overload). Becareful you do not get caught in an expensive repair loop. Check the board first as recommended then see what happens. Look up on Bosch`s own parts website the cost of the parts that may well be required and if so you will find that the pcb is £222.18 part number 00448305 and the motor is £193.80 part number 00144797………sorry to say it is a free bucket of freezing cold water to bathe those burnt paws with every purchase!!! If so do not go there is my advice.
“If it is Beko that`s better as Bush stuff is much worse” I beg to differ! 12.5 year old Bush in a 3 kid household, filter blockage 4x followed by a new pump being required and 1 set of motor brushes. Still on original bearings too. That is real value for money.
Dettol cleaner. I have never used this but I do know of someone who does and often.
The machine does not pong since they use low temperature washing and did, so they told me, had a past pongy machine. However, like myself, they live in a fairly hard water area and did have a fairly limed-up filter. It would seem they had cured one problem but had not cured the other.Dr Beckman ( also called Dr Kilmore – think about it! ). As far as I know this is a similar but more expensive method but weaker version of what I do, see previous post bottom paragraph.
Based on my rather admittedly shakey chemistry:
1) in theory and probably in practice 500grams of soda crystals is too much. True, that you can use soda crystals in a washing machine but it is also true, if you read the packet`s dos and don`ts, it will say do not use on aluminium products. The spider assembly is an aluminium alloy so that could well be damaged by etching at 500g levels given the low water concentrations of modern machines.
2)Citric acid at 3{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} to 5{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} is not harmful as far as is known if mixed alone with water.This will descale your machine of limescale but do not expect it to as a one hit wonder and do not expect it to clear stinking sludge as it is not a detergent
3) Mixing citric acid and bleach. Depending upon the concentrations (? unknown to me ) DO NOT DO THIS as you can release chlorine gas which can cause problems with asthmatics and folk with a touch of the old heart disease so that is not a plus.
The way I descale my 19 year old Hotpoint is to use 1x box 250g of Aquasoftna crystals ( about 5 quid a box retail, if you bought a crate of 25 boxes the trade wholesale price is about £1.20 + vat per 250g box ) with 3 CAPS fulls of liquid lemon Flash at 60 degrees every 6 weeks. My machine is still on the original door seal, the original spider and bearings and spider, and does not pong inside. I have never used soda crystals.
“Machine did not complete spin cycle on last load and but it did spin when put on a spin only cycle”
3 simple things to check 1st and why. 1) the machine might have failed 1st because it did not pump out properly / fast enough, but because you then tried it on spin only the extra time allowed the machine to pump out = then spin. The machine has to pump out 1st before it will spin so check that and see point 3. 2) this is an old machine. When were the motor brushes last changed? Do you hear any low key crackling noise when the drum / and so, the motor turns esp on spin? Possible that the brushes have almost completely worn out is the point. 3) inverse blockage in the air trap = machine fills to a more than normal level but cuts off ( which is a bit of luck otherwise you get very moist! ) and will do the wash cycle just fine BUT when the machine pumps out the compressed air in the pressure switch hose cannot escape = the actual pressure switch ( abv: p/swt ) contacts cannot be detriggered = in other words the p/swt thinks you still have a tub of water inside the machine when you have not and so will not spin….however what can also happen is the trapped air eventually escapes allowing the machine to then spin after X minutes. With an empty machine with the power off take the p/swt hose off the p/swt get a cup of luke warm water take a big gulp and blow the water down through the hose. Any blockage doing this is usually pretty obvious. Motor brushes. 2 types fitted to your machine. The most common set is part number 154740 and there are cheaper pattern versions aplenty but any of these are a bit fliddly to do and the much rarer Siemens motor whose brushes are part number 173028. Hopefully, if required, you have the former set as the Siemens ones are not cheap.
If it is non of these pointers you are probably going to struggle.I think with your old machine it`ll be tip time. Trouble is fitting 2nd parts, especially electrical odds and sods, is fraught with legal problems if it comes flying back because it caused a household disaster the legal bods will have a field day especially if there is no insurance which is usually the case. Yes I know there are 2nd hand parts ( often at inflated prices ) via breakers on ebay, maybe the sellers have nothing much to lose or much more likely they couldn`t give a toss? Scrap it is my advice, take it to the tip, it`s a shame but I`d play it safe.
Just as a point. God knows in one of my previous posts why I quoted the steering head ball size on my bike at 1/16th as they are 3/16th; just a correction!
All the best.Probabally be something like this: Information on a time elapse basis is what they will do if anything. You buy the info via smart arse phone which lasts 3 days and cannot be transfered to a printer / copied. Cost £25 a shot. With no buy one get one free!!
Agreed. Simple. If no manufacturer wants to play ball publicize it. Give them 3 months to change their ways and if not start a sales boycott of their products at the point of sale based purely on the facts. You will only get the ball rolling if sales are severally hurt, use the retailers who will soon put pressure on importers within about 3 hours. Asking nicely, which is always preferable, I find doesn`t work with these boys in the same way nothing much happens unless the Daily Oppressor`s ( Daily Telegraph ) Sally Hamilton gets involved taking on the multinationals who ride rough shod of ordinary folk; things suddenly change, many a company U turn occurs, something any politician would be proud of..
Sorry to hear that. Well, like I said you might get lucky with your new Bosch as I certainly hope that you will. Of course I am not privy to the whims of Bosch`s technical going ons so that offending part ( the heat pump motor ) may now be ok….or on the other hand, it still may not be. On a brighter note if you have a complete s/steel tank at least you should not suffer the leak problem that plagues the s/steel set into plastic upper base frame which is the cause if many an e15 = basal leak code. Very common fault.
I think everyone is up against it these days to find anything whether it be new appliances / new cars / new build houses that are not impaired one way or another…everything?
God help us all when heat pumps replace gas boilers, we should all start to lay our bets on to what degree of a disaster that will be.
An analogy: my bought brand new 2008 Chinese copy of a Honda cg125 bike under the Newera label cost incl delivery a mere £400 in a crate as an assemble it yourself jobby ( easy for me to do especailly since an ex Soviet made Voskhod 175 owner from late 1970s ( very cheap bikes and 25 years old of date compared with Jap bikes at the time: slow but fun, plenty of experience in repairs there but simple to service and very cheap to do so, least in those days. Tyres could last 15 years, made for Russian village roads at that time not so much for tarmac ) but the point is is it any good or is it a piece of cheap tosh? Well for 400 quid it has gone wrong once outside Waitrose (!) but cost only 15 quid to fix when the ignition coil failed. I did a bit of research before I bought it off e-bay and everyone said stay away, glad I ignored them as the thing been a godsend over the years to avoid rip car park charges when I go in to Sin City ( any major UK town! ) but it is not without its faults: the wiring loom is a joke but re using washing machine wiring looms are wonderful things. The suspension is a little hard on the failing body initially but that was more to do with the front forks rubbish oil and the steering head bearings were missing a total of 6 1/16th ball bearings, the rubber and plastic bits are not very good but cheap to replace or I use Honda parts which are better and not necessarily horrendously more expensive given the competition on Ebay but everything else is just fine. For 400 quid a bargain has not, least to date, thrown me under the 23 bus. Great little bike for short 20 mile trips, that is what it was designed for.
If you read the reviews on the Curry`s Essentials the common complaint was the bottom basket falling off its guides when pulling out the basket and that is true. Though from memory you replace those wheels with Bosch wheels preferably the pattern ones to cut down on costs, about 3 quid each then it works ok. The plastic instrument/ fascia panel is somewhat weak just like they are with Beko dishwashers so you have to be gentle with it. There is always a weak point somewhere with all this stuff it just depends what and how much.“Is this going to make any difference – or is it just fluff. They could well make spares available – but at a cost which is uneconomic.” You`ve got it in one there!
There have been repeat spares price increases throughout 2020 in to 2021, any company under the Whirlpool umbrella for instance, but they are certainly not alone.
The worst country for chucking stuff away, {e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} wise relative to population is, perhaps strangely, Norway. Presume it is so expensive to get stuff fixed relative to buying new, mostly commonly Chinese imports……ring any bells?
As far as I can tell, which could be wrong, in Euroland ( of more Europe = more failure fame ) pattern / alternative parts are not allowed so everyone is stuck with manufacturers made spares. Manufacturers maybe barmy and certainly do do barmy things but they are not stupid and milk the population mercilessly on the cost of those parts e.g. Spain: door handle for a San Giorgio washing machine is around 40 quid, its a piece of plastic for Godsake; absolute rip off. 8 quid in UK incl postage and this was before Brexit.
As for competition between companies / manufacturers on their spares costs you hear to date nothing. Why? It is a cartel and that`s why. You do not see in any add: “We want you to keep your pride and joy for many years so we will only put up our spares, in the unlikey ( hmm, that is a bit optimistic! ) event you will need them by the true rate of inflation ( not HM Gov`t twisted manipulated truths ) but by 1.5{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} per year or less” what you do hear is silence…nothing or a freebee 10 year parts warranty with a whispered £115/120 call out come labour charge a pop which to be fair is useful if the bearings fail, the front weight tries to escape, or the pcb blows up which to be even fairer all 3 being very common and very premature with it ( for legal reasons I will not name names Indesit, Hotpoint, Hoover and Candy – damn! I just knew that would happen!
Any thoughts?
