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Re: Any Recommends Re Decents Dishwashers…
I agree with you Laurence that Bosch aren’t what they were, far from it. But no better or worse than others these days. The best bit is that at least they are guaranteed for 2years so any comeback from that would be unlikely.
Re: Whirlpool to do a recall on Hotpoint dryers
Which reminds me, most of the one shot failures are due to users omitting the cool down phase. The advice from Whirlpool during this safety recall fracas is ‘clean lint filter after every load, don’t leave it unattended’ but no mention of the potential fire risk that could occur if they turn it off mid cycle? Maybe just maybe many fire incidents are due to that scenario?
Re: Bosch Dishwasher No Water intake
Taff543489 wrote:Sorry SGS43EO8GB/43
No worries Taff.
Pressure chamber microswitch may be the issue here. The machine thinks it’s full of water and the only way it would know that is once the pressure switch microswitch has been activated. Have you checked and cleaned out the pressure switch area and transfer pipe?
Re: Bosch Dishwasher No Water intake
Model number Taff, model number? I only do mind reading on a Whit Monday. 😛
Re: Whirlpool to do a recall on Hotpoint dryers
Hotpoint have just delivered and installed a new tumble dryer to my nextdoor neighbour as part of the recall exchange. He figured £59 for a new dryer in exchange for his 4+yr old one was a good deal.
Re: Zanussi ZWF81460W
There’s not a service manual produced for this Polish made machine. However it is pretty basic all the same. What have you checked on it? Is the interlock at fault, heater earth leak or maybe the control panel fixings are cracked?
Re: Whirlpool to do a recall on Hotpoint dryers
johnnyj wrote:I know of a good few engineers that used to reset the toc with a pin arguing that if they knew what caused it to open all was okay, so they could get a complete call if they didn’t have the thermostat kit for it, scared me at the time even more now anybody doing the recall how do they know if some muppet has reset it before, and the thing goes up in flames.
Yes the pin trick is a well known, Internet spread, bodge. The less obvious intervention of a one shot is ‘the magnet on the telescopic wand whiz’ whilst shouting “Expelliarmus..!”
😈Re: Whirlpool to do a recall on Hotpoint dryers
kwatt wrote:So to say that this is purely down to bad design is a totally false and highly misleading statement to make and I strongly suspect that you have zero data to back that position.
Whirlpool finally admitted in 2015 a design issue affecting their dryers. 5.3 million affected Hotpoint, Indesit and Creda dryers.
750 Hotpoint/Indesit/Creda fires since 2004. But you are correct, I have no data as to how many of those could be entirely down to user abuse. You’re suggesting user abuse is a major contributory factor, sad indeed if that is the case for those that have suffered as a result.EU safety standards are woefully inadequate in allowing products like this to be marketed. Every single engineer that has experienced these machine knows exactly where the failings lie. The flimsy wire coiled element in a thin tin frame with flaky mica insulation. TOC terminals that burn so easily, capacitors that melt and combust. Flimsy plastic lint filters that split. Open ended tubs that rub against plastic supports and felt seals and so on.
The fact that this safety recall spans the many years and millions of products just highlights the poor design standards rubber stamped by the EU. Perhaps as well as improving the weaknesses I have mentioned they should include a more stringent ‘what if’ factor? What if they put in too many or the wrong type of fabric, what if they don’t ever clean the lint filter, what if they go to bed and leave it unattended?
Re: Whirlpool to do a recall on Hotpoint dryers
I understand where you’re coming from Ken but if combustable clothing, bath mats, freshener sheets, silk hankies or whatever were to blame all brands would be affected. This epidemic is purely down to unsafe design, period. Apparently 3 or 4 a day are catching fire still, all of which are Indesit brands.
In the past we’ve had Whirlpool’s power boards and Beko’s capacitors to blame for isolated cases. No problems with Hoover, Bosch, Zanussi, White Knight etc.
If the user is to blame for putting the wrong garments in or not cleaning the lint filter then there should be adequate safety factors built into dryers to prevent such serious consequences. Dryers should not have elements that glow when air flow is restricted. Plastic shielded capacitors should be banned. Dual safety overheat thermal fuses fitted. Or perhaps all element based dryers should be banned and only heat pump systems available.
Long may this Whirlpool fracas continue so that eventually those responsible will be brought to account. The current recall is woefully inadequate and many more potential tragedies are likely to occur before the issue is finally resolved.
Re: Whirlpool to do a recall on Hotpoint dryers
timdowning wrote:Could it be just that they overheat due to the overheat stat not operating soon enough?
I’ve been to many a Hotpoint where the belt has gone or the starter capacitor has failed but the heater is still cooking away merrily…Too bad you dumped it as that would have been the perfect opportunity to perform an autopsy as to the sequence of events that culminated in it catching fire.
Whirlpool are quick to whisk away burnt out dryers to prevent a third party from carrying out independent tests. Most, like the one in the ITV studio are so incinerated it is impossible to say if ‘lint’ was the catalyst.
Re: Bosch better than Hotpoint, ‘Really’ ?????
bw wrote:However, the 21st century machines have been significantly less desirable.
The factories that churn this stuff out can’t make them fast enough to keep up with demand.
Sales in their tumble dryers has slowed a little but once the ‘smoke’ clears demand will continue apace.
Re: Bosch WFF2001. Replace drum bearings.
Graham999 wrote:How easy was it to get the old bearing out? Did you need a bearing puller?
Club hammer and cold chisel is the accepted method.
