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twicknix
ParticipantRe: Bosch SGS66A02GB/21 Dishwasher Tripping Out
In my experience I found it’s difficult to megger the dw with faulty mains filter, given the low cost of new main leads it’s worth getting some and keep in the van as it’s getting more common these days. Swap it over and resume the test with the megger. Save yourself the hassle on trying to disconnect each components as you will still get the same readings throughout and leaves you scratching your head. It’s hard to test the main leads itself without “shorting” your megger.
BTW – it’s not the ohms reading I was after, it’s the insulation readings off the megger. I would be worried if you test the dishwasher with the insulation readings of 2 and accept it as a pass when you have tested so many, you should expect it to be sky high. Yes the minimum insulation readings for class one appliance is 1 and 2 for class two appliance but do not accept this as a pass for the dishwasher as it should be a lot higher.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Bosch SGS66A02GB/21 Dishwasher Tripping Out
What’s the insulation reading for the heater?
Have you checked the motor?
twicknix
ParticipantRe: comet…again!!!
Martin wrote:Today’s papers say that the collapse of Comet is expected to cost the taxpayer £50m in unpaid tax and redundancy costs. Comet lost £200m last month according to Deloitte.
Amazing isn’t it how we traditionally in the independent trade poured scorn and hatred on ” the sheds”. Comet’s demise and what it has cost us so far truly justifies our long felt feelings.
DSG are next…………
Who’s DSG?
:offtopic: To those who buys white goods directly from suppliers will find themselves in a tougher position as I found a lot of my customers saying my charges were simply too high to supply and install whitegoods when they can get it from Internet and still save a fortune by employing me to install it. I am not even making huge profits on whitegoods (if I am lucky, I can make around £10 per unit plus fitting charges). WRT to Comet, they lose out as some clever guys can undercut the competition by £50. To you and me £50 is a lot of money and this would give us good foundation for our overheads. It is not Comet’s faults that they went belly up, it’s the manufacture who chose to do business with that will shift as many units as possible rather than based on price.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Disappointing results on second hand units
Today I was asked by a customer of mine wanting to buy a reconditioned washing machine. It didn’t take me long to persuade her to plump for a shiny brand new silver washer rather than risking my reputation to supply her a recon unit given my recent experiences. I admit I did miss the huge profit margin on the recon unit but reputation matters more than profits.
Disaster averted… :clown:
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Disappointing results on second hand units
Rather tricky to do a quick test before installing the machine at the customer’s house. In hindsight I think i could have insisted to test it at the warehouse but it’s a busy place. Like I said my reputation, I rather not visit again.
As for FD number, I wouldn’t know as basically I bought the machine and installed it, if it wasn’t for the motor fault and water leak I would have written down the model and FD number.
The motor fault was the inverter motor for one of those high end Bosch washer made in Germany. The one you have to program the time in (?)
The water leak one is the basic Bosch model with 1200 spin. Sorry couldn’t help more.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Disappointing results on second hand units
The one I bought weren’t Hotpoint just Bosch.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Disappointing results on second hand units
http://www.worldofrecycling.co.uk
World of Recycling based near Wednesbury, 2 miles from Ikea off M6 Junction 9. I was asked to spread the word to encourage more of you to buy but my experiences was not that good and I do question their testing procedures. I made 60 miles round trip and it costing me a lot in diesel because of the two faulty machines which were supposedly to have passed the functional tests. Perhaps I got the bad batch, so like I said buyers beware. You may get better luck than I do.
The guy there was very apologetic and tried to resolve it but it didn’t really restore my confidence because of my reputation with my customer who just had their kitchen flooded. Don’t let that put you off! They have tons of Hotpoint washers for you to sell or rent out. Take your choice.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: comet…again!!!
Sounds very similar to Connect who been buying up all the Internet spare parts retailers. DRL will be distorting the competition if they acquire the Comet brand so who knows if office of fair trading will be looking at it?
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Dishwasher leg pressing against gas pipe
yes lee8, it is gas pipe as I traced it to the oven. It’s copper pipe with soldered on elbow joint. The floor is wooden.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Bosch Washer – WAE24162UK/01
Thanks Mike, will give it some thoughts as with customers who have 2 children and a husband then there’s a sense of urgency of needing a working machine.
The machine was 6 years old and inherited it when they bought the house. Very difficult to say to them “don’t buy a new one just yet while I enquire.”. I’ll give her a call but I doubt she want it mended. Her eyes lit up at the thought of a shiny new LG.
twicknix
ParticipantRe: Dishwasher leg pressing against gas pipe
It took me a long pause on how to remove the dishwasher.
The pipe was very rigid and the leg did not push it which was kind of a relief but I was not very happy with the workmanship. It puts me in a compromising position. I am not a gas fitter but I can see it was badly designed and ill thought which could have been done better.
Putting the dishwasher back is another matter. Don’t know how they did it in the first place (bruce force springs to mind).
twicknix
ParticipantRe: AEG LAVATHERM 57700
Did a thorough checks, both micro temp busted on heating element.
Traced wires to circuit board, none of the relays are closed circuits, all of them open apart from two connections which leads to the interior light from the relay (middle relay out of 5) and via those one of two small blue boxes by the description of 6n8 M 250v~Y2.
Other than that all the connections are ok. Had a hard time tracing those brown wire…
Discovered the front stat is open circuit and no changes in resistances during hot cup test.
Possible conclusion – front stat seized up and made the heater over heats and blew out micro temps.
Expensive to put right as thermostat costs £13 plus new heater £84 considering the “new” heater lasted for two loads. Scrap yard it is!
twicknix
ParticipantRe: AEG LAVATHERM 57700
Thanks Dave,
The part came from Connect as special order for the price of £70 plus VAT. Will have a closer look on the micro temp.
I will take a look on the pcb board when I get the chance. Some threads seems to suggest that PCB board are often the main culprit for small things to go wrong. I find it odd that you mentioned the heater relay would stay on even after the fan had stopped running. Is it common for this to happen? And what do you mean the fan stop running? Was the heater meant to stop heating when the drum goes into reverse (I would have thought so)? Where would I find the relays (behind the facia or on the base)?
twicknix
ParticipantRe: AEG LAVATHERM 57700
I did some checks on the tumble dryer, it was producing no heat after successfully drying two loads then on the third load it stopped halfway through.
There are no airflow blockage as you can still use it without heat and there are lots of air flowing about.
The heater unit itself, the stat appears to be closed circuit which indicates working, only two of the wires (brown and blue) are closed circuit but the remainder 3 wires does not appear to make any contact as they are all open circuit and yes it was disconnected from the dryer when I tested it.
So it looks like blown heating element, it’s either faulty batch or something gotten too hot, even with all the stats working, it should have cut in. There were no burning smell well apart from slightly hot smell that burns the hairs of your nostrils when the dryer stopped mid cycle on the third load. It was a child’s bedding (duvet cover, sheet and pillow cases). I thought perhaps it was too light and restricted the airflow but discounted it.
The worse thing that the heating unit was a special order and therefore non returnable. What my chances are to ask for refund via Connect?
any ideas? 😕
twicknix
ParticipantRe: AEG LAVATHERM 57700
I found the manual, thanks Dave.
By the way, it blew the new heating element, for some reason it over heated and blew it out. Unsure if this is due to faulty heating element or thermostats in the dryer. Unless someone can come up with a likely source of problem? Otherwise I will decide to cut my losses and scrap it. Got my fingers burnt so to speak 🙁
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