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Re: Bosch, Siemens heat pump style dishwashers base leaks
I am just about at the end of my tether with this machine……… 😈 😈
Resealed sump; leak stopped. Leaked from side inlet. Sealed and re tightened that; no leaks for 5+ washes….small leak – resealed again. New leak from somewhere…… 😈
So I cleaned and dried the base, wrapped all the hoses and stuffed the corners of the base with kitchen paper to detect where the hell it was coming from.Yay, no leaks. Ran the machine 7 more cycles and noticed the paper at the back near the hose entry hatch was wet. FFS!!!
I am now thinking I need to strip the machine down and systematically seal absolutely every possible water inlet outlet and seal there is on the machine. Of course, I have better things to do, but as there are so many of these machines out there, a complete solution is what I’m after as this problem is obviously going to be commonplace soon.
How do you get the sump off? The base is held on by a twist in the lower stainless tub seam…. daren’t twist that straight unless that’s what you do…..
Any help on this PLEASE…… 😥
Steve.
Re: Bosch, Siemens heat pump style dishwashers base leaks
Got one of these in ATM…..fitted a new heat pump as the heater had failed and now E15 “base flooded” fault. No leaks from my repair – seems to be leaking from the side air chamber seal (thanks NomadPaul for the pointer!! 😀 ) Going to seal it and try again ….and hope.
Definitely not a fan of these crap dishwashers; I used to recommend BSH dishwashers highly; now I don’t dare as several customers have told me they are not at all impressed with their machines. Although it’s not my fault, you can’t help feeling a little guilty for telling them to buy better and buy Bosch.
I really think that these new dishwashers are no better than Beko now. Bosch should be concerned….but probably aren’t….. 😈
What is worth recommending now?Steve.
Re: EEE safe email.
They’re at it again……
Another email…this time it shows the control panel of a washing machine with buttons showing the route a non EEEsafe repairer would take to fix a machine.
No prizes for guessing it’s less than flattering!!
So if they can’t get you on board by convincing you that EEEsafe is the way forward for standards then they will insult everyone that is not registered. Way to go guys!!
OK – would EEEsafe have an agreement written in blood from the manufacturers to supply all the tech info required for their registered engineers to be able to diagnose, test, re- program, carry the exact part to first time fix everything, every time? This would be the hallmark of a true professional.
Well of course not. So why pretend that registered guys that carry a plastic card and pay a membership fee are going to be at an extreme advantage? If that is in fact correct, then the case should be stated, supported by hard evidence. The control panel insult is probably more directed at manufacturers engineers as they have the ability to throw parts at the problem more than the independent who has to buy them in, so is more careful to get it right. Can EEEsafe sort this? Can they walk on water as well?In my previous posts on this, I asked those questions and of course they were never answered. To regulate the industry, you have to have majority support from those working in it; including the manufacturers. They have demonstrated with sealed tubs and non – configured electronics that they are really not interested in the independent trade at all, so has anything changed? If I am applying high standards to my job, test everything I do, have 30 years experience and hoards of satisfied customers who recommend me on then am I not as “professional” as EEEsafe standards? Or will it all suddenly change for the better as I grasp my EEEsafe membership card in my hand?
I am fed up with Checkatrade, Trades UK and now members of our own trade in the form of EEEsafe trying to denigrate non members of their cliche. You are not whiter than white you are in it to make money.
Convince me otherwise.
Steve.
Re: Bosch washer drier bearings.
Got a seal and the job is done – runs lovely. Not so bad to put it back together; seemed to be easier than taking it apart…possibly just a familiarity thing. 😉
Steve.
Re: Dangerous
Don’t think I’ve ever been confused Lee…..except when reading your posts. They always leave me scratching my head as you offer nothing over and above your usual mantra (which has been tried and talked about in this trade for the longest time) and offer no solutions to those questions (that everyone already knows the answer to, or nobody asked in the first place). So, in that vein, yeah…I’m dead confused at what the f you are trying to say but never actually get round to saying…..
You really need to learn to respect that other folk in this trade are as well versed as you say you are (in some cases way more so) so if you care as much as you remonstrate why don’t you actually step up and do that something that you tell everyone needs doing so urgently to ‘put the world to rights’.
Probably because it’s so much easier to type it than to do it.Steve.
Re: Bosch washer drier bearings.
What an utter sod of a job!! Millions of screws holding shed loads of parts each fixed and clipped in six different places……..grrrr!!!
Eventually got the drum out of the tub and the seal size is:- 37.4 62 10 12. The bearings are 6206 and 6205 in an 8KG machine. I’ll use a WF Hotpoint bearing kit (SKF’s) and just source the seal if I can. With those size bearings I suppose it’s really not going to last too long. Shame that BSH would do this especially at the high price tag.
Now the ultimate surprise….made in China!! Logixx series now Chinese – I thought that was the top grade series….oh dear; you just don’t know these days. 😥
Any help on that seal would be appreciated; is it common to anything else? Going to the bearing supplier in town tomorrow anyway but just asking.
Looks like this could be the first of many failures of this type; might think twice about doing this again though…miserable job. 😐
Steve.
Re: Dangerous
All the ones I have seen have a fused switched spur hard wired to the meter. The machine cable is then connected into the switched spur.
What a mess though. And to think that the electrical industry is snorkeling in regulations and law and training….. and yet this still happens. So all the regulation in the world won’t stop human beings being stupid. (think there’s another thread around here banging on about that……. 😉 )Steve.
Re: Bosch washer drier bearings.
eastlmark wrote:…..shame it will be in landfill after 2 years then.
Got the go-ahead today (Quoted with the tub = £320 job)!! 😯 Have to say, I’m a little surprised that the customer didn’t get in contact with BSH to register his disdain; I ventured to suggest he did so.
Going to strip it down and see what bearings it’s fitted with….bet they are generic off the shelf parts. The seal, as Ken says, is the key to the job, so hopefully I can get one easily enough. The customer has gone on holiday for a week so it’s in the workshop which gives one a breathing space. And a 1 ton winch. 😉
Gonna try to beat BSH at their own mercenary game and save the customer a lot of money as replacing the bearing in the original tub will be about the same job time as fitting a new tub anyway.Steve.
Re: Bosch washer drier bearings.
Martin wrote:Ah but it’s now only £173 trade direct from BSH, roll up, roll up!
You can always count on Martin…..part time engineer and full time cynic……. :clown:
Thanks Martin, that made me laugh!
Steve.
Re: Bosch washer drier bearings.
OMG….another one!
WAQ28460GB/06 with bearing failure only 5 months out of 2 year guarantee… 😯 This one shows the drum assembly supplied only as one unit. Must be bonded. 👿
What is left to recommend in the £300 – £500 bracket?
Steve.
Re: Bosch washer drier bearings.
Connect part inquiry came back as “bearings supplied complete with tub half”. £198 BSH own site retail price…part only. 😯
So that’s pretty much it, isn’t it? BSH follows the herd and integrates the bearing with the tub then prices the part to try to blackmail the customer into an overpriced repair or scrapping the machine. It isn’t 3 years old yet. Is this the Bosch of the future or just a one off?
Looks like bearing jobs now a thing of the past even on the high class stuff.
Steve.
Re: Siemens SN25M230UK/01 heater.
Sorry Tim; I forgot to mention I fitted a resistance across the heater plug using a dispenser solenoid of the heating / expanding type. That didn’t function at all; my meter was across the terminals at the same time as a double check. Normally works in all cases, hence my worry that the board is frazzed.
Got a replacement heat pump coming today….hope for the best I suppose….. 😥Cheers,
Steve.
