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Re: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
The exploding is a bit of an issue with all plastic tanks although never saw it with the screwed ones. I thing they type of plastic has also changed.
Re: Beko Employed Engineers?
There is a difference between turn over and profit you realise.
Making that money you must be making 50k a year.
Re: List of washers with sealed/welded tubs
sce wrote:“that said, if customers keep demanding lower and lower cost washing machines then manufacturers will seek to reduce costs, this is a way in which they can do that in some measure.”
But, they the customers, do not and that`s the problem. It is not the customers that demand lower prices it is really the manufacturers in competition amongst themselves that lower the price to gain that market share.
Actually, throwing off the rose tinted glasses, the modern 2013 £200 machine is not an electrical/mechanical nightmare as it is commonly portrayed as an electrically mechanical device. But where it comes unstuck, as do much more expensive machines costing 3 times as much under the same circumstances ( e.g.water hardness), is the way they are used, the low temperatures and knock on affects,the size of drum, the spin speed, the water level, bacterial problems and several other problems. For instance the 30 year old Philips 80 series: plastic tank but no one would say that their bearings were an issue at all…..but they ,generally span top whack 1100, had high water levels, and span as they pumped out thus clearing out the rubbish build up within the machine and I am still repairing the odd two or four on my books to this very day. In conclusion. It is not that they had a plastic tank which made them last so long it was because of the axillary design features that made them last i.e. the high water level, small depth drum etc…. The large 7 kg drums of today with a plastic tank suffers from bearing tube/plastic deflection on spin and hair line bearing tube area cracks which is not overly surprising given the load stress and strain= Youngs modulas of plastics whether talking about a sealed tank or a dismantleable tank makes no odds. Though having cut up a sealed tank unit (break up)-a Zanussi- the bearing size was not up to the job given the load requirements… so to be fair you have to take this in to the argument to.I really could not agree more.
It’s not one thing its a combination of thing all coming together although over use and especially overloading are massive contributing factors.
I remember a few year back going to a machine that was 14 months old and the bearings were destroyed, it was a 9kg HP Aqualtis and they had sent me on a customer care call as it was just out of warranty, the customer was giving me a lot of crap about it failing so soon, why the door seal was black and the machine stank in the drum, I decided to check the module and seen how many washes it had done.
When I saw over 2400 I nearly fell over, I then noticed that just over 2000 were 30 degree fast washes.
When I enquiries with here see said that it was often on 5 times a day on fast washes and some times 6. I tried to explain that that’s very excessive usage and that all the 30 washes was the reason the seal was black and smelled.
She just did not care, she could not seen while any of this was a problem.
I refused the warranty repair based on usage but in the end the office gave in and replaced the tank.
People just assume its does not matter how often its used.
Re: Hotpoint FDAL28P
Sounds as if that’s 2 different problems as the float switch is in the base and that would indicate an internal water leak, did you get any water leaking on the floor ? most likely the drain hose as its only pushed in under tension the water not draining is something completely different.
It’s a shame we did not know what error code was being displayed.
I don’t see why it was not repaired rather than exchanged as those models are very easy to repair and the common parts are van stock.
Re: Beko Employed Engineers?
Working for the manufacture is not that bad. I did 10 years with Indesit and it was ok, money shite, its as bad as you let it be. The latest they could send a call was 3:30 but tbh I never let it get that late. I’d just bring one forward my self that way I knew what I was getting.
A hell of a lot of the engineer moaned about everything but these were often the boys home by 2:30 every day. I don’t think I ever worked passed 6pm and working to 6 was only once or twice in my whole time. Most days some by 4 latest.
Like any job its what you make it. The cards are always stacked against you you just need to learn how to deal them in your own advantage.
Re: Hotpoint WMD 967 not draining.
Never had a pump take out the RCD, also there is no earth to the pump so unlikely.
If it was spinning when it tripped check the condition of the motor comm and any buildup of carbon from the brushes, Iv seen a few ark when it builds up badly around it,
The pump won’t run on its own without water but it should run on a spin cycle, stick it on an rinse and spin let it fill and the move it to spin. You should get the pump to kick in.
Re: Ariston A1400SWD – Pulsing on fill and overfilling
Well the original pulsing symptoms are normally motor related.
As for it now over filling and the pulsing stopped of start from scratch and make sure the pressure switch is wired correctly ect.Edit. Just checked its a 535 evo 2 board so as I said do with motor area first
Re: Ariston A1400SWD – Pulsing on fill and overfilling
I think that’s an indesit evo 2 electronics. It’s motor related normally with those symptoms. Check brushes,motor, motor harness and finally board. I normally find its either the brushes or the harness but can be any of the four that cause it to do it.
Re: Qualtex website
Iv also had problems with it, it was down earlier and I jest tried to do an order and it’d gone down again.
Re: Best of the budgets.
Heavy may not be a bad thing as recent indesit/hotpoint cabinets are like paper, no chassis in the bottom anymore just the side panels folded into a gutter to give it some strength.
Re: British gas beko td rework
Another planet in the background with a Beko fridge and drier, perhaps to add some reality it could be burning lol
Re: Best of the budgets.
Thanks all for the responses.
Regardless of what you sell no one deserves abuse for it, there is nothing wrong will selling one make because it has a better margin above another,
lets be clear we are all in this industry to make money, regardless of what you sell or repair that’s the end goal, just because you sell an more expensive brand does not make you any better or more qualified than the next guy.I started this thread as Iv noticed there is a number of people on here who seem say if you can’t afford a Bosch, Ise or Miele you should not bother buying one and that’s just insanity, the majority of people can’t afford to spend £600 on a machine, large numbers are bought on credit or via a catalogue and that often limits choice as well.
Rather than the make its self being the problem Iv often found its how its used, Iv seen indesit’s last longer than Boschs. Iv personally got a Kenwood(Haier) dishwasher that done 5 years with out a single problem.
It’s easy to slag off various brands for unreliability but if they are use correctly there is no reason they won’t last.
