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Cameron Wrote
Thanks very much for that, I tried the diag mode and it won’t do it for some reason, it just acts like I pressed the power button by itself, I tried it many times, trying how I did it, and using diffrent buttons etc, when you turn it on, all lights come on, then after about 5 seconds, it just goes left to right with the lights for the stage of the spin cycle.
If I press the reset that works, but I can’t press most buttons, I can adjust the water temp, and the spin speed, the water level lights are blank, and I can’t access the fast spin speed but the other speeds work and can go up and down, if I press power it turns off, and advance it does nothing, every other button (ie spin cycles and water level just beep 3 times quickly when pressed)
I read through the instructions a few times also, and I’m sure I’m doing it right, for a stage 3 diag (mw051)
maybe it’s the control unit???? any idea what a control unit is worth, just trying to work out if it’s worth trying to get it fixed or not..
Regards
CamronPenguin45 wrote:The seasoned, battle hardened and somewhat cynical field service engineer puts his head in his hands and goes
“Oh God, not again…..”Chris.
fraid so
I’m back
Have sent you the diagnostics
Do the diagnostics and post the fault code.
To reset Press and Hold the Start Pause button then press the Power button.
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Of course I am concerned as to how do I prevent all that new found dirt clogging the machine the first time I use this product.
Ice Mr Penguin/Mr Eskimo?
Sand anyone?
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Is it vented properly?
Is it Gas or Electric?
Who installed it?
Is it under Manufacturers warranty or Statutory Warranty?
Not fit for the purpose intended?
I’d be chasing the installer first (or checking the installation) and then going to the retailer/manufacturer.
You shouldn’t and don’t have to put up with an inferior product!!
Without you doing something about it the industry will not improve!!
May the force be with you!!
Phone F&p to purchase a Service manual as copyright does not allow me to republish or sell their manual
Penguin 45 is right that the cold water solenoid is faulty
Their 12 volt supplied coils however should read 15 ohms and are basically bullet proof at these voltages
You should first check that the water runs freely through the hose and that the filter in the valve opening where you attach the inlet hose is free of debris/dirt
The valve itself is however a major source of income for repairers as their diaphram is of poor quality and will therefore split and subsequently won’t let the water through properly.
Also these machines only rinse on cold water so a hot fill selection will not bypass this component.
Likewise the hot and cold valve are different and so cannot adequately be swapped
Drain the machine to avoid reboot errors
Ensure the power and water are off and disconnected at the wall.
Take all precautions not to get water in the electronics else forced air drying for a lengthy period will be required.
A most unusual fault
Do you have the spin speed slow and hold LED’s ON when you are are reading this fault code
As per Penguin 45 this fault code indicates the fault would be in the display module.
Turning the machine off at the wall and waiting >5 seconds could reset this problem or a replacement of the Display Module is indicated
Did you run tests “8.2” & “8.3”
Did the pump run continuously without fail until turned off
A five minute pump test would be ample in case the pump is failing on overheat which would occur in less than five minutes.
The pump on overheat would need a similiar time to cool down before it will work again if overheating is the problem
Also did the valves let water in until you released the button.
Did your “Out of Balance” switch test OK
You could test the values of those resistors in circuit in the power module to prove/disprove their integrity, but again the fault code readout you posted indicates the other module is at fault.
Having been able to run the machine with it having pumped out indicates a different failure.
Never disassemble a machine and work on it with the power on.
Firstly I would contact F&P on 1300 650 590 (24hrs) and complain loudly and long.
They can be quite reasonable so tread softly to start and then turn up the heat if they dont come to the party
Warranties offered by Manufacturers (2 years on your machine?) have no real meaning, so do your research and contact Fair Trading as to Statutory Warranties.
I’d avoid contacting this State Government Service between 9 – 5 Monday to Friday.
They don’t want to be there and do real work.
However if you phone five different times you will get five different responses.
Pick the one that your most happy with ensuring you get the persons name and quote this in any correspondance should you need to pursue that path
The Control Board would cost you up to $250 to purchase plus up to $100 to have it fitted.
Penguin45 is correct that the major components could have caused the problem and so fitting a replacement board could cause the replacement to fail immediately.
Also there is no warranty on electrical components fitted by yourself so the exercise could double in price.
If you post your email or fax no., I’ll send you the Diagnostic sheets that will assist you if the machine powers up and less so with major components electrical values.
Unless you are experienced in electrical testing these electrical values will mean very little to you and although the components may give the right reading as per the sheets, the components may still be faulty.
Believe me, I’ve learnt from many years of experience that you can’t take things at face value.
Especially with Vax/wax motors which are a newer and increasingly common device and can test perfectly and then short as soon as power is applied.
Of course the same applies to you that you can work perfectly and then as soon as power connects, Kaabooom…. Dead, so don’t handle appliance with covers removed, 240 volts connected, and without the necessary skills.
A D.I.Y washing machine repair is just not worth a life.
Re: Holidays
Have to go away possibly for 1 week
Will leave the Downunders to you and Penguin45
Cheers
Re: F+P Smartdrive 053 (machine wont fill for the RINSE cycl
I’ve emailed you the diagnostics
Post back to UKW with the fault code
If I’m not there then penguin 45 will assist when he’s online
Do not email as I’m about to go on away and nobody will respond
Best if you could do this asap
