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“John Lewis sell Bosch Washing machines that meet my needs for as little as £320 now and that seems very cheap for a Bosch machine.” Yes it is but it will have a sealed tank unit so if your bearings fail you have 2 choices 1) a complete replacement tank or 2) scrapping it!
“Are new Bosch machines crapper than when this one was made in 2011?” Yes and by a large margin. I am not a fan of Bosch, Neff, or Siemens stuff anymore. Whether a sealed tanked model which these days are by far more common than the few remaining ( last time I looked ) machines that are dismantleable tanked, either way the costs of repair can be rather horrific.
“the prices now seem to have them down in the Beko / WhiteKnight range.” Beko are sealed tanked, White knight is a Vestel machine made in Turkey which does have a tank you can dismantel ….that`s if you can get the parts AND at a reasonable price!
If I was in your shoes for around 300/325 quid why not consider a Zanussi Lindo 300 model. 8kg and 1400 spin. The only common problem, so far, is heater failure ( goes to earth, trip seldom goes off but it temporarily scrambles the programmer giving you the impression that the expensive pcb is at fault as the display fails or it starts filling and generally does really weird things ) once you know the fault £30 odd quid fixes it. Sealed tank though and @ £200 if it goes!
Failing that you could always as pointed out get a new drum with spider ( you cannot buy a spider separate ) and change the oil seal on your existing machine, trouble is, as you yourself point out,…what`ll be next?
Me neither. But I did find L914WM18. If your WM20 version has belt size 1239j5 odds on the pulley for a L914wm18 may well be the same ? If so the partmaster part number is 3899908pm – go to partmaster and type in to find L914wm18,then type in that part number and a picture with appear £14.84 as listed plus postage and a months wait – its Chinese!. Logik stuff is, as you know, a Currys model as is Partmaster part of Currys too. Jumping the gun: Odd part to go wrong what is the matter with the pulley wheel? spokes broken, center worn hole?
Fault, as you allude, does not make sense at all so if in your shoes I would:
Double check fault, then treble check the fault then if you are still correct by watching the machine or aborting the 60 degree programme or wait until it pumps the WASH water away then feel the outlet hose based that the water wash level on all washing machines is stupidly too low 1) notify your retailer in writing of the complaint ( not by email because in my experience no one bothers reading them let alone understand them unless very simple 2 liner- they are trained in Office Speak which is a totally foreign language based on nonsense ) and photostat a copy or two and a photocopy of your purchase receipt / delivery note. 2). Register the machine if not already done so and then x reference to where you bought the thing and post those letters off having kept copies too ( do not e-mail ) to Beko UK customer Services. Send all letters as signed for, keep receipts of postage. If anything like the big companies I used to work for do not expect them to admit that there is a fault in writing let alone a design cock-up. Ask for a non chargeable engineer visit to have the machine sorted out. Do not expect much to happen before happy retail day ( Xmas ).So if the pump is on the right and the pump itself is ok and the floor does not slope to the right that leaves either a poorly secured to tank door seal or a fault with the outlet hose within the machine`s housing / chassis ( discounting if there was a leak due to a standpipe blockage if plumbed out that way ) or a hairline split r/h/side in the plastic tank perhaps, though that might be somewhat fanciful but you never know!
very true some Lamonas are Beko products rebadged especially the ovens but since I have only to date seen the older stuff that are Hoover/Candy derived as washing or washer dryers. Have you got the Smeg and beko versions model numbers please as would be interesting to do a spares price comparison between two models.
Probably the motor brushes have worn out or split and jammed. Alot of the circuit is wired via the motor so any fault such as nuked brushes wikl cause or can cause the problem you describe. If the pump pumps and when it pumps there is a ggood stream of water coming out other than a very rare fault with the pump the pump should be ok. I would have a look at the brushes after the pump.
Spot on. The trade is an utter disgrace. The answer to why is one more than the other is that there is no answer to your question, they just are, different importers. If you discount that one is a rip off and the other isn`t!! What is worse is when you get rebadged machines such as Lamonas which are rebadged Hoover / Candy ( as are some other R Hobbs offerings ) where the rebadged machine can easily suffer from a 45{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} increase if not much more in parts pricing. No wonder the public have lost faith though I always had every faith that I had no faith at all!
RH814WM1W continued tale of horrificness: heater £109.17, motor £440.94, belt £41.97, motor £325.59 and a pump £67.92. Trade prices. Someone is having a laugh or got it wrong.
Oops! Turkish Vestel. That is the problem with no rear view picture though I should have recognised them by the door seal. The run off of chosen horrific part prices I came across and did not indicate the prices of the R H model mentioned or that particular Logik in the first paragraph.
Your Baumatic is a pre Hoover / Candy in other words it is not a Candy rebadged machine. What used to happen is the the spider used to rot then crack then take out the front plastic tub front which gave the impression that the door seal seal had fallen off the tank ( door seals are never attached to the ” drum ” ).whereas what has really happened is that the tank front has been cut by friction, I could be wrong you could be right so if the d/seal has just fallen off, which is going to be very rare, it must be a rusted through door seal retaining wire / band which allowed it to part company with the tank. Parts are thin on the ground for these things unless someone has some old stock: I do know that, least officially, the tub front and tub front seal are obsolete as far as I can tell by a brief look up.
OOOPS! “though with the heap I had the problem with the brushes were fine but if you do not check you`ll never know”. Should have been: though with the heap I had there was no problem with the brushes as these were fine but if you do not check them you`ll never know..
“Laughing at me” that`ll be that Chinese sense of humour our overlords just cannot resist!! Yes one of my customers fell victim to this problem with a Hoover badged dumb version on a theme twice! The first time replacing the pcb behind the facia panel cured the problem then 8 months later it did it again BUT this time it was the power pcb – the one down the bottom rear right, least on their machine. Originally I thought the door lock was jerking about but being a cheap to replace component it was not to be; well it just couldn`t have been that could it? Actually both Hoover and Candy versions are, to sum up in no uncertain words, complete rubbish machines that try to be clever but fail dismally their only virtue is that the sealed tanks are somewhat longer lasting ( that is if the rest of the machine lasts that long ) than a Bosch sealed tank, least it seems that way based on current experience! Since it could be either pcb or even both you might want to dig out your paper work because I would`ve thought it would be under the 10 year freebee parts warranty. Things you visually could check are the motor brushes before doing anything though it was a grasping at straws on my part if its not an induction motor version ( no brushes ) though with the heap I had the problem with the brushes were fine but if you do not check you`ll never know.
The question is: by spin do you mean just spin or do you also mean tumble speed it also does the same i.e. whenever and where ever the motor turns it busts into a spin mode for a split second? There are a fair few product code model versions to your model beginning with 91. Very often with models fitted with a sole made motor the rear of the motor`s generator coils`s magnet comes loose and pushes out the coil ( tacho coil ). But it is possible a triac or some other component on the pcboard has gone wrong OR the wiring from the motor up to the pcb though that is uncommon on Zanussi stuff.
A reason for the cracked chassis is that the suspension legs are not rubber mounted under the threads but the real reason is the mild steel is not thick enough, especially for models above 5kg load capacity, and is also brittle. The same situation used to occur with Hotpoint 95 series washing machines ( mid 1990s ) and those were rubber mounted, so I can only pin it down to the quality of `da metal`.
